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Re: Archer build
« Reply #45 on: March 21, 2011, 12:34:07 am »
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long or war bow there are no others!
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Re: Archer build
« Reply #46 on: March 21, 2011, 01:31:24 pm »
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Do you have any suggestions for STR archer build ?

Edit: I mean 9 or more PD

Edit 2: My archer is level 27 and has 18 str 21 agi. It takes 3 or more (often more) shots to kill tincans. I know str archer is going to be stronger than agi archer, but how much? And is str archer's aiming good ?
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Re: Archer build
« Reply #47 on: March 21, 2011, 03:35:22 pm »
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In my opinion no.  I've stopped playing Kaelaen my planned 24/15 (8 PD) archer in favor of Joredas, which is a copy of Raina's archer build.  Kaelaen is currently stuck at level 28 at 22/15 with 141 points in archery, and because of the low agility I can't put any more points in weaponmaster.  Your mileage may vary though, high agility archer tends to fit my playstyle better which is very headshot heavy - maybe if I stopped aiming at people's heads my accuracy with the war bow would increase.

As for the damage, I was very disappointed with that too.  Lots of people run around in at least medium-tier mail these days so I was particularly sadden by the fact that I can't shoot people twice before they go down.  My war bow on Kaelaen is only heirloomed once though.  Sure Joredas does even less damage to those guys but he currently has 65 wpf in melee and one more powerstrike compared to Kaelaen's 25 wpf so I rarely feel like running away if someone decides to come my way.
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Re: Archer build
« Reply #48 on: March 21, 2011, 04:26:50 pm »
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Whatever you do, use bodkin arrows as the peirce damage is essential.  Also, the msot recent patch made a mistake with the warbow and should just ignore that bow for now as it has Exact same shoot speed as the strong bow with only difference +1 accuracy, +3 cut damage.  The cut damage difference is ahrdly noticeable and is definitely not worth the significant tradeoff in draw speed.

I believe it was said by a dev somewhere that the damage type depends entirely on the launcher, meaning every bow will do cut damage no matter what damage type the arrows are.

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Re: Archer build
« Reply #49 on: March 21, 2011, 05:28:25 pm »
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just wish for a long bow buff in projectile speed or even a improved projectile speed by PD so 8 PD build is viable
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Re: Archer build
« Reply #50 on: March 23, 2011, 12:45:30 am »
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Well i got 8 PD and 145 Wpf in archery atm, Pure archer, and i had to convert a hell lot of skillpoints to get a useful archer, i still think archers are slow and inaccurate tho!

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Re: Archer build
« Reply #51 on: March 24, 2011, 09:55:55 pm »
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Well i got 8 PD and 145 Wpf in archery atm, Pure archer, and i had to convert a hell lot of skillpoints to get a useful archer, i still think archers are slow and inaccurate tho!

If you wanted fast and accuraye why did you go 8pd? and only 145wpf?
try 18/21 with khergit bow
6pd
7wm
7ath
3ps

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Re: Archer build
« Reply #52 on: March 24, 2011, 10:11:44 pm »
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If you wanted fast and accuraye why did you go 8pd? and only 145wpf?
try 18/21 with khergit bow
6pd
7wm
7ath
3ps

well im not lvl 30/31 yet. when i get to lvl 30 ill have 24/18...8 PD, 6 WM and 3 PS.

And who said i wanted to be fast, im a siege archer, going for more Dmg....next time ill go for 21/21 build.

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Re: Archer build
« Reply #53 on: March 24, 2011, 10:12:50 pm »
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Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)
Strength: 27
Agility: 12
Hit points: 62
Converted: 8
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 6
Shield: 0
Athletics: 4
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 9
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 4
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 139
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

KHERGIT BOW. Nothing else. Accurate, hardhitting, fast, 6ps, 4athl. Best for short-medium distances.

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Re: Archer build
« Reply #54 on: March 24, 2011, 10:28:28 pm »
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And who said i wanted to be fast, im a siege archer, going for more Dmg....next time ill go for 21/21 build.

One would just naturally make that assumption when you complain that archers are too slow.

The point Murchad was making was that you chose a build purposely that was designed to give up speed for a benefit. You didn't have to be slow.

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Re: Archer build
« Reply #55 on: March 25, 2011, 01:56:52 am »
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One would just naturally make that assumption when you complain that archers are too slow.

The point Murchad was making was that you chose a build purposely that was designed to give up speed for a benefit. You didn't have to be slow.

Well what i meant was that the archery animation feels a little slow generally. And i've heard that agi wont make u much faster nowadays...

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Re: Archer build
« Reply #56 on: March 25, 2011, 02:27:18 pm »
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Str: 18
Agi: 21

PS: 3
Ath: 7
PD: 6
WM: 7

2h: 87
Arc: 150

That was my old build while using light armour and a warbow, I found it accurate over medium distances although i'd love to be able to use the longbow in order to do more damage.

This time round I am going to try and add some more into archery and lower the 2handed because I now have a Masterwork Longsword which should compensate some of the speed loss.

Good luck with the build though,

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Re: Archer build
« Reply #57 on: March 25, 2011, 08:50:21 pm »
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Str: 18
Agi: 21

PS: 3
Ath: 7
PD: 6
WM: 7

2h: 87
Arc: 150

That's what I'm shooting for next time with my foot archer alt if I don't go horse archer.  I accidentally (thank you warsteiner) converted 2 skill points too many with my current build, which messed up my planned melee skills but has no effect on my archery.  Currently have:

Str: 19
Agi: 21

PS: 4 (wanted 5ps/5ath)
Ath: 4
PD: 6
WM: 7

2H: 39
Arch: 160

Gear: Light leather, hose, katana, Khergit and bodkins.

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Re: Archer build
« Reply #58 on: March 25, 2011, 09:01:12 pm »
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I've spent a while (since I started playing) trying to get a good archer build, with the numerous changes, i've been flying around, this one seems to suit my play style well and especially for the patch where people are more inclined to hybrid their characters due to the high price of wpf these days (which I don't mind, I find it adds more difficulty).

This time round though due to the fact that I now have a Masterwork Longsword, I am going to hit with 160/52 respective, or finally just hitting for the full 164 archery and 10 (lol) in two handed.

Now i'm going to go do some calculations so I can see which would actually be viable or whether or not to just sit with medium range accuracy being only reasonable.
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Re: Archer build
« Reply #59 on: March 28, 2011, 08:53:20 pm »
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most of the conversation has been on the high pd side of things.
Has anyone tried heirlooming a shortbow?
I was thinking of trying a speedy build focused on getting mostly headshots.
It obviously wouldn't be the best build but could be fun
would need to have bow and arrows heirloomed or would be useless.
I would like to try it but still have several other things i want to heirloom first

12/27
3x heirloomed shortbow 3X heirloomed bodkins
1ps
4pd
9ath
9wm