Archer build

[Niksis]

Hey gais!

I was planning on building an Archer and was considering this build, any input?

Level 31 (8 892 403 xp)
Strength: 18
Agility: 21
Converted: 6
Power Strike: 6
Athletics: 7
Power Draw: 6
Weapon Master: 7
Archery: 165
(Based on http://infinitum.dyndns.org/crpg/calc.htm)

[Kong Ming]

What bow are you going to use and how much melee do you want to be involved in?

[Niksis]

I was gonna use a Warbow and this is an Archery build that is somewhat viable in Melee.

I just retired from a   
 * Strength: 36
    * Agility: 3

    * Converted: 6
    * Power Strike: 12
    * Athletics: 1
    * Power Draw: 12
    * Weapon Master: 1

    * Archery: 120

Build and want a little bit more Accuracy while still able to kill with the bow.

[Balton]

Does anyone know the wpf/PD accuracy trade off? IE, is the accuracy increase for each excess PD point equivalent to 10wpf?

[Lansamur]

well, thats my current build:

Age   44 [29]
Generation   10

Strength   15   
Agility   24   

Archery   171   

Athletics   7   
Power Draw   5   
Weapon master *   8   

Strong bow does still do quite a bit of dmg and I want the accuracy rather than pure power.

[Keshian]

There is nothing exact (no patch notes, dam you chadz (shakes fist)), but good rule of thumb have at leats 1 powerdraw higher then the bow you plan on using.

[Kong Ming]

My observations since the patch is that 1 point in PD makes a significant difference in your reticule's precision.  More so than the wpf you would get from a point in WM.  For this reason it seems to me that archery builds are now about a different trade-off than before.  If you want really good accuracy and damage, get extra points in PD.  If you want more draw speed and a more stable reticule once drawn, get WPF.  Haven't yet determined what makes the best balance of the two.  Still experimenting.   Thoughts?

[Adrian]

If youre going Warbow stick with the build you just stated.

I'm currently

Strenth=18
Agility=21

IronFlesh=4
Atheltics=6
PowerDraw=6
Weapon Master=7

What it really comes down to is what you want to do and what youre capable of doing.

I feel I can aim really well and so 163 WPF with a Warbow at level 30 is sufficient enough for me to still dominate and land arrows on target. If this isn't you then I suggest a lower level bow which shoots faster and may have better accuracy.

For me I personally enjoy being able to bring down any target, from lightly armored to your heavy armored knights. You just can't do that as easily spamming a Khergit or Strong bow. Where I do have trouble however, is fighting against other archers as a large majority now use Strong or Khergit bows which spam arrows fairly fast, faster than the warbow. I found though if you know how to strafe around you can overcome this and use superior aiming and damage to beat out other archers with faster bows.

So in the end like I stated it comes down to what you want to do, I would recommend you just go Power Draw 6 regardless of what bow you use and test out both the War Bow and Strong Bow as I feel these are the only two bows worth using at this point in time since the patch. Also don't make a set decision until the upper 20's as to which you find most viable. Infact I wouldn't decide on either bow until level 30. From then on you will be able to figure out which bow you would like to use permantly. With your bow selected you can then alter your original build to better fit your playstyle. I hope this at least helps a little bit.

[Keshian]

If youre going Warbow stick with the build you just stated.

I'm currently

Strenth=18
Agility=21

IronFlesh=4
Atheltics=6
PowerDraw=6
Weapon Master=7

What it really comes down to is what you want to do and what youre capable of doing.

I feel I can aim really well and so 163 WPF with a Warbow at level 30 is sufficient enough for me to still dominate and land arrows on target. If this isn't you then I suggest a lower level bow which shoots faster and may have better accuracy.

For me I personally enjoy being able to bring down any target, from lightly armored to your heavy armored knights. You just can't do that as easily spamming a Khergit or Strong bow. Where I do have trouble however, is fighting against other archers as a large majority now use Strong or Khergit bows which spam arrows fairly fast, faster than the warbow. I found though if you know how to strafe around you can overcome this and use superior aiming and damage to beat out other archers with faster bows.

So in the end like I stated it comes down to what you want to do, I would recommend you just go Power Draw 6 regardless of what bow you use and test out both the War Bow and Strong Bow as I feel these are the only two bows worth using at this point in time since the patch. Also don't make a set decision until the upper 20's as to which you find most viable. Infact I wouldn't decide on either bow until level 30. From then on you will be able to figure out which bow you would like to use permantly. With your bow selected you can then alter your original build to better fit your playstyle. I hope this at least helps a little bit.

gO WITH POWERDRAW 7 WEAPONMASTER 6 (155 WPF)

[Kong Ming]

Agree.

gO WITH POWERDRAW 7 WEAPONMASTER 6 (155 WPF)

[Niksis]

Thank you guys for all your thought and insight, playing a 36/3 str archer was hella awesome, could 1 most people but the most armored targets.
so it seems you would recommend a 21/18 build instead of 18/21?

[Dravic]

Yeah, 21-18.

[Madman]

Unless cRPG changes this from Native single player, you would want to use a bow that has a power draw requirement about 4 less than what you have in the skill. The bows get a damage boost based on the difference of skill compared to requirement you have over the bow; so in theory a starting bow with no or only 1 point of power draw requirement would do more damage than one that has a requirement of 4 or 5 (which would be your power draw skill)

Then again this is mostly heresay as I prefer crossbows for their ability to hold an aim without loosing accuracy.

[Rumblood]

Here you go. Athletics 5 is fine for run speed and 145 WPF gives enough accuracy for decent long distance, good mid-distance, and great short distance accuracy. The PD 8 is where the Strong bow really shines with the ability to 1-2 shot low armor and horses, plus you have the superior draw speed. Heirloomed and I don't see why I would use a long bow.

Age   46 [31]
Experience   8735843
   
Strength   24
Agility   15   

One Handed   1   [1 WPF cost]
Two Handed   25   [1 WPF cost]
Polearm   1   [1 WPF cost]
Archery   145   [9 WPF cost]
Crossbow   1   [1 WPF cost]
Throwing   1   [1 WPF cost]

Ironflesh   0   
Power Strike   8   
Shield   0   
Athletics   5   
Riding   0   
Horse Archery   0   
Power Draw   8   
Power Throw   0   
Weapon master *   5   

[Adrian]

While I do agree with some of the things people stated here, I would still recommend trying things out for yourself. Honestly when any of these people top me on the scoreboard I will take advice from them on arching.

Anyway, try the a PD 7 build then a PD 6 build and see what you like. I believe both are very viable and what it really comes down to is how much "skill" as a player you have when it comes to archery.