Suggestion: pre-battle surrender option

[Zaharist]

Fixed - You cannot be immediately attacked by the guy who you surrendered your goods to.

But why?

[Digglez]

But why?

because then noone would ever surrender.  Why give them goods if they can take them and still kill you?

[naduril]

And thats really will looks like in Native single. There you coudn't attack a caravan which payed you for trespassing for several hours. And thats cool.

[dodnet]

No one would use this option if he could be attacked by the same bandit right after and a bandit would attack until the opponent has nothing left.

There should be some predefined options like "give 50% of goods" or "give 1000 gold or give 50% of gold" without the bandit knowing how much that will be. The correct amount should be transfered automatically then. So if the attacker demands 50% you have to give 50%.

When using this option the defender shouldn't be able to drop it's items though.

[Zaharist]

because then noone would ever surrender.  Why give them goods if they can take them and still kill you?

Why not?!

"They can" doesn't mean "they undoubtedly will"

If bandit wants to fight he will never accept the deal.
If he thinks that it's better to save troops but take some goods, then he will accept the deal.

Why do you think that all bandits will attack once again after accepting the deal? it doesn't make any sense.

No one would use this option if he could be attacked by the same bandit right after and a bandit would attack until the opponent has nothing left.

1). Depends on reputation of bandit.
2). If bandit attacks immediatly after accepting a deal, and again merchant offers him a new deal, then this merchant is real idiot.
3). If bandit wants to take it all, then he will accept only 100% deal. If merchant doesn't want to give give him everything he has without fight, he will give a fight anyway.

And thats really will looks like in Native single. There you coudn't attack a caravan which payed you for trespassing for several hours. And thats cool.

They'd better give player -honor points for attacking caravan after deal. Would be much better and realistic.
What if I change my mind suddenly? I am stupid bandit I don't have any plan. Today I take your money cause I feel sick, tomorrow I want some blood, cause I didn't find sheep to have fun night before.
Chaotic evil.

[naduril]

Well, Zaharist, there is some sense in your words
Chaotic evil, that's exactly what bad asses arses are. So your point is reasonable.

[Slamz]

Why do you think that all bandits will attack once again after accepting the deal? it doesn't make any sense.

Accept 50%.
Realize "50%" is 800 goods.
Attack!

I think the surrender should be binding to at least the clan level.

[Elmokki]

You should definitely be able to attack even if the defender gives you goods. Bandits/whatever who don't honour their word of not attacking after getting ransom will eventually not be trusted at all for ransoms so it disincentivizes it for people who actually want to get easy money by ransoms.

[HarunYahya]

Surrender ? Who would want sucha lame thing....

[dodnet]

Bandits with honor? LOL?

[Slamz]

You should definitely be able to attack even if the defender gives you goods. Bandits/whatever who don't honour their word of not attacking after getting ransom will eventually not be trusted at all for ransoms so it disincentivizes it for people who actually want to get easy money by ransoms.

Prevent main characters from ever changing their names and you may have a deal.

As it is, you can completely change your name when you retire, so there is no "trust" or long term negative reputation possible for Strategus.