So botting/semi-afk leeching is fine?

[Meow]

Earlier Merc Vicious was auto running into the enemy team without reacting so he basically just got killed.
I saw this on multiple maps and multiple rounds in a row so i assumed he was botting.
At that time at least two admins were on the server but did not react to this at all.
So i asked for a ban on him on irc which ended up in this:

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.:Meow:. so merc vicious is botting right now... autorunning into the enemy team for 2 maps...
.:Meow:. and unreal is not banning him
.:Meow:. wtf?
.:Jeffreybob:. take fraps
.:Jeffreybob:. i ban him
.:Meow:. yeah rejoining right now. crashed when i connected my recording hd
.:+Mtemtko:. Its not bannable... he isnt naked.
.:+Mtemtko:. and he isnt idle either
.:Meow:. are you kidding me?
.:Jeffreybob:. if hes botting
.:+Mtemtko:. No.. im preety damn serious
.:Jeffreybob:. he gets the ban
.:Meow:. alright
.:+Mtemtko:. how do you know hes  botting?
.:Meow:. then i will go ahead create my bot now
.:+Mtemtko:. spawn and press W+t for autorun
.:Meow:. i take a screenshot of this
.:Meow:. haha sweet
.:Opium:. some chinese dude called Ys_Dacheng has been leeching naked and unarmed on siege servers for several days
.:Jeffreybob:. yes
.:Jeffreybob:. and autorunning into enemy to avoid getting banned = bannable
.:Meow:. i will totally post this log now
.:Meow:. epic
.:Everkistus:. hmm
.:Everkistus:. how about autorunning to enemy, then trying to fight them?
.:+Mtemtko:. sounds like what everyone does duh...
.:Jeffreybob:. yeh
.:Jeffreybob:. but he said he just runs there and does nothing
.:+Mtemtko:. ? its not bannable,whats your problem then?
.:Jeffreybob:. if he does nothing
.:Jeffreybob:. there then its leechin
.:+Mtemtko:. he spawns with gear, he runs into weapons
.:+Mtemtko:. he doesnt idle and prolong rounds
.:Jeffreybob:. what kinda gear
.:+Mtemtko:. spammitar,some shield and 3k armor?
.:Jeffreybob:. pfft
.:Jeffreybob:. 3k armor is nothing
.:Jeffreybob:. thats still leeching
.:+Mtemtko:. Well he isnt naked
.:+Mtemtko:. and there are plenty naked leechers arent for you to get your banning orgasm
.:Jeffreybob:. if he is making a profit by autorunning in
.:+Mtemtko:. around*
.:Jeffreybob:. then he is leeching
.:+Mtemtko:. its not you that decides if hes leeching or not
.:Jeffreybob:. yes it is
.:Jeffreybob:. any admin can decide that
.:Jeffreybob:. someone is leeching
.:Jeffreybob:. if hes wrong it will be changed later
.:Jeffreybob:. if we always had to wait for chadz for any decision, we would never get anything done
.:+Mtemtko:. oh im talking to blooki i see? Well cant keep you from banning just about everyone..
.:Jeffreybob:. pfft
.:Jeffreybob:. i havent banned anyone in ages

this is the full log i just removed one quit message.
screenshots are available if in doubt.

So i have no idea who Mtemtko is but obviously he doesn't share the opinion that everything that is not actively playing for your team is leeching.

Now i would like to have this clarified: Can i just autorun into the enemy and die as long as i got gear without having to worrie about being banned?

Also is that Mtemtko guy an admin? cause it seams kinda crappy if that's his attitude even worse if he is right about it...

[LordBerenger]

They are in the same clan. If those are the real names.

But admin. I don't think so.

[Belatu]

I want my money back 

[Tai Feng]

If you want to outlaw suicide bombers I think Muslim players will complain that they can't practice their faith.


(And it's only botting if you use a bot, not if you do stuff manually.)

[Vexus]

How do you think he got to gen 16 so fast ;)

[Poetrydog]

If you want to outlaw suicide bombers I think Muslim players will complain that they can't practice their faith.


(And it's only botting if you use a bot, not if you do stuff manually.)

Even if it's not botting it's still leeching. I agree with the OP that you have to actually play for your team and not just run and die. If he ran straight to the enemy and actually fought them although very outnumbered it would be ok

[Meow]

Correct if you do it manually it's leeching which should be a day ban.
If you bot it's botting and should be punished with a permaban.

We had that Sun_Cardinal yesterday night... he was botting as in autorunning in zigzacks and doing a swing from time to time which would be the done click after round restart.
he had a 400ping and in multiple rounds ran to the edge of the map so the rounds would take untill the flags for master of the field appeared as people wouldn't find him.

Those guys imo deserve a ban from the mod itself on all servers as they are just using the servers they are not playing on actively to bot which can ruin the fun for everyone easily...

[KaMiKaZe_JoE]

THIS SEEMS LIKE PRETTY IMPORTANT STUFF

[CtrlAltDe1337]

How do you think he got to gen 16 so fast ;)

Pfff Goretooth was gen 16 several weeks ago, he's probably around 25 by now.

[Dreakon_The_Destroyer]

I say hes not doing anything wrong if hes moving and got armor on unless hes not a peasant.

except for the running around the edges of the map. now THAT is def delaying

[Wookimonsta]

Banned him, will see how long.

also do not listen to yoshi murasucky, he is crazy

[Leesin]

Doing nothing wrong? spawning and running directly into the enemy, not even trying to fight, is definately leeching, infact he is trying to disguise the fact he is leeching by using equipment and running into the enemy to die ASAP, then carry on with whatever else he's doing. Sorry but that is the same as someone being naked and hiding or staying at spawn, just a different way of doing it.

Have nothing against the guy, but when he's already gen 16 and he's still leeching, it's rather pathetic.

[Dreakon_The_Destroyer]

A few rounds for a lvl 5 guy, yes nothing wrong with that...he cant help the team yet.

But if hes lvl 20+ and doing it for rounds and rounds and rounds. ok, yeah I would def want to ban him.

[Vexus]

Problem now is to retire you only need to be lvl 31 there's no 1 week of waiting which is retarded why remove the week cooldown per retirement?

Wasn't the heirloom theft supposed to make heirlooms more specials?

[[ptx]]

You can reach lvl31 in one week? O_O