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Data on Power Strike and knockdown?
« on: February 09, 2011, 05:00:12 am »
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Is there any legit info about how power strike effects knockdown? People are always saying it does, and that weight of the weapon also is a factor but it's always 'I heard it' rather than someone actually knowing.

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Re: Data on Power Strike and knockdown?
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2011, 05:31:37 am »
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Well, the formula for Crush-through (which I've specifically seen before) depends mostly on damage dealt (affected by powerstrike) and weapon weight.  Not sure if knockdown uses something similar or not though.
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Re: Data on Power Strike and knockdown?
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2011, 10:41:59 am »
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I'm not entirely sure knockdown is boosted by damage dealt.  I've knocked people down with glances before, and it's not nearly as consistent on my high strength character as crushthrough is.

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Re: Data on Power Strike and knockdown?
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2011, 11:20:26 am »
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I believe that Matey's current mosquito build wielding an iron mace is proof that knockdown isn't affected by power strike or at least the differences aren't too noticeable.

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Re: Data on Power Strike and knockdown?
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2011, 04:52:03 pm »
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Well it was said before that Knockdown was merely determined by weight and chance, unsure myself though as it's been a while since I've played around with such things.

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Re: Data on Power Strike and knockdown?
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2011, 04:23:12 pm »
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Sorry for necroing, but here's some nice info

Knockdown is:
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[16:17] <@Urist> (rand(0.0, 1.0) < min(item_weight * 0.33, 2.0) * min((raw_damage - 20.0) * 0.5, 10.0) * 0.015)
[16:18] <@Urist> raw_damage has str, wpf, ps etc
[16:19] <@Urist> so ps etc influences kd but it is capped early
« Last Edit: June 16, 2011, 04:24:59 pm by Vibe »

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Re: Data on Power Strike and knockdown?
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2011, 04:51:30 pm »
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If I read this right, max knockdown chance is 30%, when your char has a weapon that is 6 kg or more and does raw damage of 40. Min knockdown chance is 0.

Also, the last parenthesis is superfluous.
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Re: Data on Power Strike and knockdown?
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2011, 08:22:02 pm »
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iirc, the chance of knockdown increases when you hit the legs.
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Re: Data on Power Strike and knockdown?
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2011, 09:09:44 pm »
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iirc, the chance of knockdown increases when you hit the legs.

As the raw damage increases with lower armor, it makes sense.

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Re: Data on Power Strike and knockdown?
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2011, 09:26:29 pm »
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raw_damage has nothing to do with armor. In fact, it is the potential damage BEFORE the armor calculations take place. So armor DOES NOT influence knockdown chance.