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getting a crafting text at lvl 4
« on: November 03, 2011, 06:12:17 pm »
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Sorry if this been posted before, i looked back 3 pages, dint see anything.

anyway, i got the crafting text at a very low lvl, and now my good stuff got a penalty, and some worthless stuff got +3.
Is there anyway i can reset this to my previus crafting list (the one before i got the text while beeing low lvl)?
If not, is there any admin kind enough to help me?
Becouse i do not think this was meant to work in this case.
As far as i can make it out, this system is meant to support players to use the same set up.
So say, Nords get better shields, while GK get better horses and light armor.
Not useless stuff you can buy for cheaper in strat.

I hope there is a way to deal with this, becouse im afraid to retire otherwise, thank you.
« Last Edit: November 03, 2011, 06:13:27 pm by buba »

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Re: getting a crafting text at lvl 4
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2011, 06:15:19 pm »
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Cheaper gear are not so useless in strat, high gear cost a lot to equip big army.

May be it's a good thing!

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Re: getting a crafting text at lvl 4
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2011, 06:58:56 pm »
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I had the text ("..valour...") yesterday or today once or twice, but the crafting skills are still the same as some days before. I retired some days ago and loomed my armour, but I still only have the normal one as a crafting selection. So how exactly is this crafting thing supposed to work? Do I get a +1 bonus for each item I wear at the moment and a -1 for each I don't wear? Does it depend on the server I play on? I heard there are some servers which "aren't connected to the database". What does that mean?

I haven't found a thread where all this crafting stuff is explained.
The logic of war seems to be that if a belligerent can fight he will fight.

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Re: getting a crafting text at lvl 4
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2011, 07:35:18 pm »
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valor is nothing to do with crafting skill mate.
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Re: getting a crafting text at lvl 4
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2011, 07:43:03 pm »
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Ah... then I mixed these up. Still interested in how the system works. Any clues?
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Re: getting a crafting text at lvl 4
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2011, 08:21:15 pm »
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Cheaper gear are not so useless in strat, high gear cost a lot to equip big army.

May be it's a good thing!

Not when you get it once and never again, it will just be lower out of your list.
If i want to make cheap gear ill play in cheap gear. Not this random chance to either get the gear you always play in if your lucky, or crap gear if your not.

If you get the thy hard work has payed off you will get a +3 on the equipment you wear at that moment, the stuff you got +3 last time will be lowerd with - 1
« Last Edit: November 03, 2011, 08:30:19 pm by buba »

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Re: getting a crafting text at lvl 4
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2011, 08:24:05 pm »
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Cheap gear is so cheap you can just buy it.

It's especially annoying from a cav point of view because you can't use horses for a while if your low level and your discount gets a lot less. My champ courser had 50% discount. Now it's down to 34%. I had the text loads as a low level. But I've been riding my courser for a while now and only had the message once.

What is with the randomness. A REAL system would be nice.

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Re: getting a crafting text at lvl 4
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2011, 08:37:12 pm »
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I had the text ("..valour...") yesterday or today once or twice, but the crafting skills are still the same as some days before. I retired some days ago and loomed my armour, but I still only have the normal one as a crafting selection. So how exactly is this crafting thing supposed to work? Do I get a +1 bonus for each item I wear at the moment and a -1 for each I don't wear? Does it depend on the server I play on? I heard there are some servers which "aren't connected to the database". What does that mean?

I'll try to answer your questions, but I can be wrong.

1. Valour text. You receive it when your team looses round (for battles only afaik). You need to be one of the last men in your team and need to damage someone during this round. But still it is random.
Once I got valour for teamkilling (head shot). It was only hit I made during the round.

2. When you loom item you need to receive crafting texts for it in order to craft "loomed item", but still you can craft previous "versions" of this item. Crafting text is very random, some say sieges are the best to farm this text.

3. Once you receive this text you get +3 to every item you chose in inventory for this round. If you have bow and 3 (2) packs of arrows, then you get bow skill +3, arrows skill +9 (+6). Afaik craft text van be received in every game type.

4. I don't know if other items' skill reduces but it seems to be true.

5. database. I don't know exactly how it works. I believe "not connected servers" receive info from database (your lvl, inventory etc), but nothing changes in database, in your profile when you play on such servers (you don't receive gold, exp, don't pay for repair etc)

Sry for my english, I hope I helped you a bit.

What is with the randomness. A REAL system would be nice.
You can't exploit randomness -)
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Re: getting a crafting text at lvl 4
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2011, 11:17:20 pm »
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Thank you for your answers.  :)
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Re: getting a crafting text at lvl 4
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2011, 11:54:00 pm »
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Ok, let me clarify crafting and "all thine hard work..." a bit further.

Gaining the skill:
As they said earlier, you get +3 for every single piece of equipment you have equipped. Not what you spawned with, but what you had right then and there. If you spawned with a pike and dropped it before you got the message, you wont get for the pike. If you spawned on a horse and you dehorsed or it died, you don't get for the horse. Having 2 stacks of arrows and a bow would give +6 to arrows and +3 to the bow. If the item is an "ammunition" item (quiver, throwing stack, ladder) and you have used all of them (shot all arrows, thrown the ladder etc) but haven't picked anything new up, you still have the quiver/bag/whatever and get for that too. Picking up stuff that would make you normally drop the bag/quiver will take these away, btw.

Losing the skill:
When you get the message you also get a -1 to all the items you don't have equipped right now. If you had 6 skill in pike, but got the message while using something else. The pike would then be 5.
You cannot go beneath 0 skill, btw.

EDIT: Huh, this looks good now that I see it posted. Did you guys find it usefull? Might put it in the wiki then. Anything unclear/wrong/spelled incorrectly? Would like some feedback before I put it there.
« Last Edit: November 03, 2011, 11:55:31 pm by Zapper »
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Re: getting a crafting text at lvl 4
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2011, 12:46:13 am »
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clear as a bell, put it on the wiki.

Heard that getting the thy hard work reduces your upkeep too, is that true or not?

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Re: getting a crafting text at lvl 4
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2011, 12:46:49 am »
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clear as a bell, put it on the wiki.

Heard that getting the thy hard work reduces your upkeep too, is that true or not?
nope
« Last Edit: November 04, 2011, 12:56:38 am by Bjarky »

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Re: getting a crafting text at lvl 4
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2011, 12:53:30 am »
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All thine hard work does not reduce your upkeep. That is at least my experience and I have never seen anyone say that or any of the devs commenting on it.

nope
I'm guessing that's only for the question and not the "put it in the wiki"?
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Re: getting a crafting text at lvl 4
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2011, 12:56:02 am »
+1
you guessed right  :D
was to lazy to highlight the question ^^