Lower Upkeep a tad?

[MountedRhader]

You're right on one thing -- I'm abysmal in melee with throwing axes (unless I have a shield). Of course theres always the fact that I have 123 wpf in throwing, carry twelve throwing axes (each one of them flying insta-death), 9, soon 10 power throw, and 30 strength. I also carry a longsword with 370 hours of using it + 2hand before retirement. All these things you have to know before you fight your enemy. Ignorance kills..............


I would never underestimate an enemy. Instead fighting at the highest skill level so there aren't any surprises afterward.

[Maira]

Wow.. Cool

It's enough to have a "low" tier steppe horse, and the most expensive bow (For HA) and arrows x2, lamellar armor and helmet with kherg boots and leather gloves. Being that the horse is the most expensive thing I own.

Tunic over mail substitutes the lamellar for knights just fine. 3k.
Strong bow + 2 bodkins = around 6-8k?. It's enough for a decent weapon +2k shield.
Mail gloves, mail boots 2-2.5k.
A 1.5k helmet.
You'd still be making lots of money in mail. Mail is good(enough).

(Also, hey Tetris, Loz here. *waves like a retard*)

[John]

My "heavy gear" character can use about 70,000 gold worth of equipment all the time without losing money, I don't think there's any need to increase that.

[Rhaelys]

My "heavy gear" character can use about 70,000 gold worth of equipment all the time without losing money, I don't think there's any need to increase that.

Well John, that's because the team you're on tends to win more often than not. 

[Joxer]

Raise it please. My default gear is mail hauberk, mail chausses, mail mittens, guard helmet and 4x MW pike. I make money continously. I have 320k saved up and I recently bought 80k's worth of junk I never use. I could retire and get me a black armor set and plated charger and turn gay for all I care 

[Opium.dk]

Im gonna answer your topic question.

No.

[bruce]

Raise it please. My default gear is mail hauberk, mail chausses, mail mittens, guard helmet and 4x MW pike. I make money continously. I have 320k saved up and I recently bought 80k's worth of junk I never use. I could retire and get me a black armor set and plated charger and turn gay for all I care 

Well, when the damn pike costs less then a military fork or warspear... heh. You can upkeep your entire set (well, with 1x pike) for the price of a heavy crossbow without bolts.

Btw, heirlooming weapons doesn't increase upkeep.

[Rumblood]

Answer: No. We should raise upkeep a bit in fact 

[Punisher]

The current upkeep system seems perfect to me, you can still wear heavy armor from time to time and you can do very well in medium armor because most people wear low-medium armor too. Tincans are rare as they should be, of course there are people like the MAGANDA3 dude who like to farm 2 days in peasant gear for 2-3 hours of black armor+plated charger, but that's their choice. The only problem is throwing, after patch all other ranged was nerfed to make it balanced against medium armor, I don't understand why throwing doesn't get nerfed too.

[Ganon]

It is a little too high. Medium armor means you lose money, while you should keep even. Of course characters that alternate peasant outfits to armored ones think it's ok. But not everyone should be forced to play that way. Also the other guy saying upkeep is ok with 100k equip, is someone farming constantly at x5 pubstomping with his clan. But if you play with regular equipment and don't farm with your clan on your clan server with banner balance always on, it's too expensive to play with normal equipment.

[Rhaelys]

It is a little too high. Medium armor means you lose money, while you should keep even. Of course characters that alternate peasant outfits to armored ones think it's ok. But not everyone should be forced to play that way. Also the other guy saying upkeep is ok with 100k equip, is someone farming constantly at x5 pubstomping with his clan. But if you play with regular equipment and don't farm with your clan on your clan server with banner balance always on, it's too expensive to play with normal equipment.

I have 32.6k worth of equipment and I always end up with more money than I started with at the end of the day.

[Patricia]

Depending on my chars I have anywhere from 10k to 35k worth of stuff at ALL TIME and I always get a profit, you're just doing it wrong.

[MountedRhader]

I wear leather armor with x3+ all the time and still lose money, and I use darts :L

[KaleLord]

The current upkeep system seems perfect to me, you can still wear heavy armor from time to time and you can do very well in medium armor because most people wear low-medium armor too. Tincans are rare as they should be, of course there are people like the MAGANDA3 dude who like to farm 2 days in peasant gear for 2-3 hours of black armor+plated charger, but that's their choice. The only problem is throwing, after patch all other ranged was nerfed to make it balanced against medium armor, I don't understand why throwing doesn't get nerfed too.

Im a hybrid thrower/2h with 5 PT i cant even 1hit naked guys with heavy axes or throwing spears i think its decent and shouldn't be nerfed. Before i tried my current build i hated throwing too but now its fun to throw from time to time