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it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
« on: October 26, 2011, 06:11:29 am »
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*sry admins I wrongly started the same topic in Event board*

the whole process is like this:
yesterday I reached lv31 and I started a thread to sell my loompoint in need of some gold

after a while a guy PMed me and told me he'd pay me 450 if I heirloom a hourglass for him (for the time being I can't point out his ID)

"that's a large sum of money"I thought.  then I accepted his offer and retired. I put the +1 hand armor on the market and noticed him to receive the cargo

but today when I logged in to check whether I've got the payment, I only found a PM to tell me that he'll buy my +1 gear "but nor for 450k"(I'm pretty sure he meant 'not' not 'nor' maybe a spellinmistake), so I feel that I was extorted by him

so I'm in panic now and dunno to whom to turn for help

guys what should I do in such a worrying situation? any suggestions?
« Last Edit: October 26, 2011, 06:12:52 am by Not_So_New_Player »

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Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2011, 06:14:37 am »
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ouch....if you go on IRC chat, some admin may be able to reply and help you faster. lesson is to look for trusted traders or experienced...what's this persons name? I remember seeing your sell thread because I was also looking to buy loompoints.
« Last Edit: October 26, 2011, 06:15:39 am by JeanneArc »
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Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2011, 06:18:41 am »
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450k is a very normal price. 

if he doesnt comply please just openly post your correspondence here,  showing everyone what kind of deal you had and with whom.  people tend to give in to public pressure before completely ruining there rep.
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Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2011, 07:19:07 am »
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450k is normal place, if he trys to get anything lower then I'd say 420k then I'd post his name here for public to see.

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Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2011, 07:27:09 am »
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Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2011, 08:40:17 am »
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450k is normal place, if he trys to get anything lower then I'd say 420k then I'd post his name here for public to see.

Hey! just buyed a loom point 400k yesterday... screw you Sequel  :P
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Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2011, 12:44:32 pm »
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Hey! just buyed a loom point 400k yesterday... screw you Sequel  :P
yeah the price of a point is around 400-450 and we all know that

if he stated a price of 400k yesterday I probably would accept it, too.

now that he'd promised to pay 450k then he should keep his words

not to mention that it is likely he's dreaming of possessing my equipment with no more than 300k

btw your avatar is awesome :wink:

thx for your suggestions guys :D I shall wait for his reply, if there's nothing within this day, I might have to adopt some unfriendly measures
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Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2011, 03:34:28 pm »
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Am i the only one who thinks the OP is actually at wrong here ?  :shock:
after a while a guy PMed me and told me he'd pay me 450 if I heirloom a hourglass for him (for the time being I can't point out his ID)

"that's a large sum of money"I thought.  then I accepted his offer and retired. I put the +1 hand armor on the market and noticed him to receive the cargo


Usually, you buy loompoints to heirloom your already heirloom stuff, to a higher level. Aka, my +2 weapon to a +3, or my +1 armor to a +2. I don't see why anyone would buy a heirloom point to get a +1 item from it. At 450k... seriously.
As i see it, this guy (ID unknown) asked if you could heirloom a hourglass (take attention that it's not decided if it would be from 0 to +1, or +1 to +2, or +2 to +3, no indication), and THEN the OP just heirloom his OWN hourglass from 0 to +1, and ask 450k for it.

I'm sorry, but most (if not all) heirloom points, are this sort of deal :
Seller selling heirloom pont for 450k. Buyer accepting offer.
Buyer selling his +1 or +2 item at whatever price (normal price + 200k).
Seller buying it, then heirlooming it.
Seller selling the +2 or +3 item at 450k+price at wich he bought it.
Buyer buying it.
The END.

There's also other sort, like Seller offering a torch for the +1 or +2 item and 450k, then buyer offering a torch for the +2 or +3 item (if you have complete faith in Seller). But the point is, it's not a +1 item at the end. No point in buying an heirloom point for 450k for a mere +1. :S


It's not precised in the topic, so instead of going all "Oh, rage, that damn guy, scammer, whatever", i'd like to side with the buyer, following my arguments, since we definitely don't have enough information about this trade.


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Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2011, 03:48:06 pm »
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Or this is life and thats what you get for making such deals without collateral...

Money first.
Buy/sell to people you know/trust.

I dont see why an -admin- should do anything about it. So the guy messed with you and now is offering a lower price. Well sell the item to someone else (via marketplace or relative forum) instead... or cut your losses and get what you can from him while warning others of his details so that he is shunned by the community...

But honestly I dont see why some "High Authority" should intervene. I dont see anywhere in the rules "Be honorable and dont mess with gullible people"...
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Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2011, 05:54:02 pm »
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450

hehe your just a bad dealer xD
look i dont see 450k.
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Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2011, 09:36:31 pm »
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hehe your just a bad dealer xD
look i dont see 450k.

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Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2011, 09:41:44 pm »
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Lots of people buy a loom point to get a +1.  I've done it, and I've done it for someone else.

Anyways, look thru your msg history and see exactly what was promised and we can see the details from there.

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Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2011, 12:04:13 am »
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People like this make me think of people that drink liquor and always try to get a discount.
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Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2011, 12:35:48 am »
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Yeah that's bush league, man.  Hope he comes through for you.
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Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2011, 02:16:19 am »
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*sry admins I wrongly started the same topic in Event board*

the whole process is like this:
yesterday I reached lv31 and I started a thread to sell my loompoint in need of some gold

after a while a guy PMed me and told me he'd pay me 450 if I heirloom a hourglass for him (for the time being I can't point out his ID)

"that's a large sum of money"I thought.  then I accepted his offer and retired. I put the +1 hand armor on the market and noticed him to receive the cargo

but today when I logged in to check whether I've got the payment, I only found a PM to tell me that he'll buy my +1 gear "but nor for 450k"(I'm pretty sure he meant 'not' not 'nor' maybe a spellinmistake), so I feel that I was extorted by him

so I'm in panic now and dunno to whom to turn for help

guys what should I do in such a worrying situation? any suggestions?


He was willing to pay 450 and u thought its a high amounth of money, you accepted.
What do u complain about ?
« Last Edit: October 27, 2011, 02:17:22 am by sF_Guardian »
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