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Should the polearm stun be removed from cRPG ?

yes
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yes, but it should stay for some specific polearms
35 (32.1%)
no
20 (18.3%)

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Voting closed: November 04, 2011, 02:31:06 am

Author Topic: Remove the polearm stun in the next patch please.  (Read 40081 times)

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Re: Remove the polearm stagger in the next patch please.
« Reply #450 on: April 08, 2012, 07:00:30 pm »
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Change the two handed stab and im fine with polestagger getting removed.
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Okay, but in that case thrust damage should be buffed a little bit.
My suggestion is a weird one. A stab from a thick blade (most 2h swords and some 1h swords) would definitely do more damage because of the bigger size, but would also be way harder to actually penetrate armour. Thus I say we give all/most 2h swords and some/few 1h swords huge damage (35-45) on the stabs, but they do Cut to represent their bad piercing ability. Who's with me?

Also, now that I think about it. This should also be for some spears too. A spear isn't really good at piercing armour (unlike the spike of a poleaxe or the long spike-thingie that an awlpike is), so they should probably get this too.
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Re: Remove the polearm stagger in the next patch please.
« Reply #451 on: April 09, 2012, 10:26:26 am »
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My suggestion is a weird one. A stab from a thick blade (most 2h swords and some 1h swords) would definitely do more damage because of the bigger size, but would also be way harder to actually penetrate armour. Thus I say we give all/most 2h swords and some/few 1h swords huge damage (35-45) on the stabs, but they do Cut to represent their bad piercing ability. Who's with me?

Also, now that I think about it. This should also be for some spears too. A spear isn't really good at piercing armour (unlike the spike of a poleaxe or the long spike-thingie that an awlpike is), so they should probably get this too.
Good suggestion +1 for it. I think it will lead to more diversity in weapons on battlefield and armor become more useful. Buff to spear and 2hswords should be between +3 or +5 dam on trust then.
On other hand this could lead to awlpike plague if they weren't balanced properly to this change.

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Re: Remove the polearm stagger in the next patch please.
« Reply #452 on: April 09, 2012, 07:43:29 pm »
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fail fail fail, you all fail , you want to remove 1 big ass gamebreaking problem and replace it with tons of other problems to compensate for the feeling of loss from that one totally op problem, gtfo, just remove polestagger, and be done with, 2 handed animation op? gtfo, alot could also claim the left to right swing of 1handed over shoulder: should be remade because its actually a pretty damn eazy insta headhitting swing, spears reach abusing with insanely fast thrusts and repeatability of these thrusts and the list can go on for a while. stay ontopic. imo polestun being removed will only do crpg good, and wont kill the game.
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Re: Remove the polearm stagger in the next patch please.
« Reply #453 on: April 09, 2012, 11:37:02 pm »
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Maybe if the over-the shoulder left swing on a  one hander could hit outside the range of almost every other melee weapon while having a very sizable window from start to finish within the animation to cause damage, then you might have a decent point. Two Handers already have it stupidly easy with the different great swords,superior side swing animations and so on. Honestly, If you don't think the two handed stab is stupid as it is right now then I don't think we have anything to discuss. Also, you seem to have missed the point of the post while inadvertently giving another example supporting it. It wasn't meant to go off topic but point out that most weapons have at least one really stupid feature/mechanic. Pole stagger is no more annoying than most others as far as im concerned.
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Re: Remove the polearm stagger in the next patch please.
« Reply #454 on: April 09, 2012, 11:42:45 pm »
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Plz fix this shit all rdy...

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Re: Remove the polearm stagger in the next patch please.
« Reply #455 on: April 09, 2012, 11:44:54 pm »
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Maybe if the over-the shoulder left swing on a  one hander could hit outside the range of almost every other melee weapon while having a very sizable window from start to finish within the animation to cause damage, then you might have a decent point. Honestly, If you don't think the two handed stab is stupidly broken as it is right now then I don't think we have anything to discuss. Also, you missed the point of the post. It wasn't meant to go off topic.
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Re: Remove the polearm stagger in the next patch please.
« Reply #456 on: April 09, 2012, 11:46:46 pm »
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2h stab is fine

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Re: Remove the polearm stagger in the next patch please.
« Reply #457 on: April 10, 2012, 12:02:13 am »
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Leave my pole stagger alone!
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Re: Remove the polearm stagger in the next patch please.
« Reply #458 on: April 10, 2012, 12:08:03 am »
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Leave my pole stagger alone!

I think your pole staggers enough people as is, sir.
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Re: Remove the polearm stagger in the next patch please.
« Reply #459 on: April 10, 2012, 12:12:45 am »
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If you remove polestagger, why have polearms? 2h already has better animations, is faster in most cases, and can reach as far as any of the speedier polearms. Tell me, is this CRPG, or 2hRPG.

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Re: Remove the polearm stagger in the next patch please.
« Reply #460 on: April 10, 2012, 12:15:14 am »
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If you remove polestagger, why have polearms? 2h already has better animations, is faster in most cases, and can reach as far as any of the speedier polearms. Tell me, is this CRPG, or 2hRPG.
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Re: Remove the polearm stagger in the next patch please.
« Reply #461 on: April 10, 2012, 12:17:21 am »
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Agreed! Take that stupid pole stagger shit outta the game. It's fucking stupid and every polearm has it.

It's bad enough that 90% of all polearm users are just S-Key fucking heros, back peddling everyone just spamming swings or swinging then back peddling back outta range. That's not skillful footwork, it's just plain bundle of sticksry.


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Re: Remove the polearm stagger in the next patch please.
« Reply #462 on: April 10, 2012, 12:18:39 am »
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It's fucking stupid and every polearm has it.

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Re: Remove the polearm stagger in the next patch please.
« Reply #463 on: April 10, 2012, 02:39:43 am »
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Agreed! Take that stupid pole stagger shit outta the game. It's fucking stupid and every polearm has it.

It's bad enough that 90% of all polearm users are just S-Key fucking heros, back peddling everyone just spamming swings or swinging then back peddling back outta range. That's not skillful footwork, it's just plain bundle of sticksry.

If you can outreach the opponent backpeddaling is a good tactic as it will give free attacks.
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Re: Remove the polearm stagger in the next patch please.
« Reply #464 on: April 10, 2012, 02:55:55 am »
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Fix it plz... thx

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