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Should the polearm stun be removed from cRPG ?

yes
54 (49.5%)
yes, but it should stay for some specific polearms
35 (32.1%)
no
20 (18.3%)

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Voting closed: November 04, 2011, 02:31:06 am

Author Topic: Remove the polearm stun in the next patch please.  (Read 43540 times)

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Re: Remove the polearm stagger in the next patch please.
« Reply #435 on: April 05, 2012, 02:16:12 pm »
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If you ever decide to remove paulstagger, remove it completely, from every single polearm in game. Or keep it this way. Warspear does not deserve stagger more than any other polearm, don't listen to Gravoth.

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Re: Remove the polearm stagger in the next patch please.
« Reply #436 on: April 05, 2012, 02:47:24 pm »
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they really do rely on stun for getting a stun on a side swing so you may actually get a thrust in aswell and do some damage.

An what ? you clearly are a bit too biased just listen to you own words..

You saying that its ok for spears to stunlock people to death?

Polestagger is stupid an needs to go an that goes for all of the polearms  :?
Stop nerfing shit, learn to counter a weapons strengths and learn some tactics.

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Re: Remove the polearm stagger in the next patch please.
« Reply #437 on: April 05, 2012, 02:51:55 pm »
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An what ? you clearly are a bit too biased just listen to you own words..

You saying that its ok for spears to stunlock people to death?

Polestagger is stupid an needs to go an that goes for all of the polearms  :?

Well maybe stunlocking someone to death is pretty harsh, but if polestun was to be removed spears will need a juicy buff to compensate.
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Re: Remove the polearm stagger in the next patch please.
« Reply #438 on: April 05, 2012, 02:58:00 pm »
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Well maybe stunlocking someone to death is pretty harsh, but if polestagger was to be removed spears will need a juicy buff to compensate.

Well maybe i dunno... clearly the pike an the long spear still have its use with or without polestagger an wouldn't need a buff.

Weapons like the war spear may lose its egde people use it for the sole purpose of stunlocking their opponents to a slow death but with or without polestagger its still a good fast stab weapon  :lol:
Stop nerfing shit, learn to counter a weapons strengths and learn some tactics.

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Re: Remove the polearm stagger in the next patch please.
« Reply #439 on: April 05, 2012, 07:51:21 pm »
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Well maybe i dunno... clearly the pike an the long spear still have its use with or without polestagger an wouldn't need a buff.

Weapons like the war spear may lose its egde people use it for the sole purpose of stunlocking their opponents to a slow death but with or without polestagger its still a good fast stab weapon  :lol:

Give it the sideswing of LHB, maybe a bit weaker and make hoplites do normal damage with normal speed and im ok, ;).
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Re: Remove the polearm stagger in the next patch please.
« Reply #440 on: April 05, 2012, 09:16:14 pm »
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Or just make the spears really, REALLY cheap? They should be for polearms what axes are for 2hs. The really cheap weapons that still have a use (2h axe break shields/doors and do good damage, spears have the stab damage and can rear horses). I would like that. Maybe also remove the penalty with shield (for SPEARS not all polearms) would also give them enough back.
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Re: Remove the polearm stagger in the next patch please.
« Reply #441 on: April 07, 2012, 11:01:03 am »
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Polestagger should be implemented to all weapons :twisted:.
Cause if you hit somebody with enough force (make him lose lots of hp), then he should be staggered.
Something like this: if dam>(25+if-weapon weight)= staggered
So ironflesh and armor becomes more useful.
« Last Edit: April 07, 2012, 11:03:11 am by Piok »

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Re: Remove the polearm stagger in the next patch please.
« Reply #442 on: April 07, 2012, 11:12:28 am »
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Polestagger should be implemented to all weapons :twisted:.
Cause if you hit somebody with enough force (make him lose lots of hp), then he should be staggered.
Something like this: if dam>(25+if-weapon weight)= staggered
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Re: Remove the polearm stagger in the next patch please.
« Reply #443 on: April 07, 2012, 11:30:41 am »
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The Poll is old, and the majority of people didn't even got the chance to vote, thread fail.

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Re: Remove the polearm stagger in the next patch please.
« Reply #444 on: April 07, 2012, 03:41:53 pm »
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I never bothered that much with Polestagger since im either on horse or dead. However I have a question for the guys who knows how this mechanic works.

If you get dehorsed and get hit with a polearm while your trying to get up will you get stunned then aswell? I have no proof of this but it feels like 1h and 2h gets only one hit in b4 I can start defend myself but poles get two and sometimes even three hits in before I can do anything.

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Re: Remove the polearm stagger in the next patch please.
« Reply #445 on: April 08, 2012, 06:39:52 am »
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I would also like to see pole stagger / stun removed from cRPG.

2 reasons:

1: It gives the Pole user an insanely unfair advantage versus his opponent. And is unbalanced versus the other weapons in the game.

2: If you cant stun someone with the stab from a Sword, then why can you stun someone with a stab from a Spear. If you cant stun someone with a hit from a Great Axe, why can you stun someone with a hit from a Great Long Axe.

Pole stagger does not make any sense, and should therefore be removed imo.
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Re: Remove the polearm stagger in the next patch please.
« Reply #446 on: April 08, 2012, 07:29:49 am »
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Change the two handed stab and im fine with polestun getting removed.
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Re: Remove the polearm stun in the next patch please.
« Reply #447 on: April 08, 2012, 08:11:58 am »
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Give all weapons (w/o knockdown or whatever applies for polearms) what constitutes as polestagger.




If this sounded ridiculous, then you acknowledge how much polestagger affects how polearms function.

Give polearms a little better animations or w/e. Just make them overall better w/o polestagger as a crutch.

As a last resort, make polestagger deterministic ( hit in the middle of enemy holds/swings, or whatever else might be fine).
« Last Edit: April 08, 2012, 08:22:26 am by san. »

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Re: Remove the polearm stagger in the next patch please.
« Reply #448 on: April 08, 2012, 08:16:09 am »
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Change the two handed stab and im fine with polestun getting removed.
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Re: Remove the polearm stagger in the next patch please.
« Reply #449 on: April 08, 2012, 02:47:43 pm »
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Change the two handed stab and im fine with polestagger getting removed.

Okay, but in that case thrust damage should be buffed a little bit.