Remove the polearm stun in the next patch please.

[Tzar]

Then dev team has to go back to their drawing board and do some balancing I guess, because this is the only advantage polearms have to counter 2h statwise (in duels atleast).

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[Xant]

Then dev team has to go back to their drawing board and do some balancing I guess, because this is the only advantage polearms have to counter 2h statwise (in duels atleast).

Yes, well, why should polearms even be equal to 2h in duels when they have advantages in battle? Bonus vs shields, being able to use a longspear/pike to their full extent..

[Furax]

Well.. polearms dont have more bonus to shields then 1handers or 2handers so thats an invalid arguement.

While I agree that polestun should be removed, it still should not stagger less than a normal 1/2h hit, im afraid it will be over nerfed and suddenly polehits dont stun anyone at all, not even for 0.01 second, so it ends up messing everything up.

And the devs dont care cause they shoot bodkins from shortbows anyways

[Tzar]

And the devs dont care cause they shoot bodkins from shortbows anyways

So who are this dev who plays archer?

[Son Of Odin]

Yes, well, why should polearms even be equal to 2h in duels when they have advantages in battle? Bonus vs shields, being able to use a longspear/pike to their full extent..

They don't have to be equal, but it is always nice to be able to kill 2 handers if skilled enough. 2H still will be the ultimate duel class no matter what, because the animations are superior compared to polearms. Actually I don't really know what to think about polearm stun. Yes I play with polearms, but it has never felt unfair to me when I have fought against other polearmers (not even when I used to be 1h). Apparently many are angry about this issue...

[Joseph]

Stun should be based on weigth, not the "weapon".

[Uumdi]

Yeah, I agree with weight being the factor if full on stuns are going to exist.

[Leshma]

Just nerf str builds and polestun can stay. Basically everything that seems imbalanced has something to do with str being op and agi being not so good choice.

Also, why there is 50% chance for polestun to happen? Isn't that a bit too high of a chance? Imho every special feature (polestun, crushtrough, knockdown) should happen once in five cases (one in four if weapon is triple heirloomed). 20-25% chance is much more reasonable and wouldn't annoy anyone but weapons will be balanced and different.

[Zisa]

Just nerf str builds and polestun can stay. Basically everything that seems imbalanced has something to do with str being op and agi being not so good choice.

Also, why there is 50% chance for polestun to happen? Isn't that a bit too high of a chance? Imho every special feature (polestun, crushtrough, knockdown) should happen once in five cases (one in four if weapon is triple heirloomed). 20-25% chance is much more reasonable and wouldn't annoy anyone but weapons will be balanced and different.

can polestun with 3/36 0PS build and scythe.

[Tavuk_Bey]

REMOVE THIS bundle of sticksRY ASAP

[Leshma]

can polestun with 3/36 0PS build and scythe.

True, but are you seriously afraid of a guy with 0 PS? Who cares if he stunlock you few times, he won't take more than 20% HP... even if there's more of them it's not a big deal. But if it's a guy with 9 or 10 PS things start to get scary. You see str builds are meant to deal loads of damage while being equally slow both in movement and attack. Currently that's not the case thankfully to things like free wpf, low movement speed bonus from ath (it's 5% and it should be 8% just like damage scales), no bonus to attack speed from agi, 180% swing arc and many thing which makes agi gimped and str king of the hill.

If they fix str/agi balance they will fix many things in one go, not just polestun issue.

[FRANK_THE_TANK]

THEY REMOVED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Patoson]

Just REMOVE the polestun !
It is just

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TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
FUCKING MUCH

annoying.
There is no point on supporting polestun with "reality facts" we are playing a game and this feature fucks it up.
2 handers topping the scoreboards doesn't mean that 2handers are overpowered.Means more skilled people play with 2handers, more nooblord bundle of stickss play with polearms.If you play good, you can top the scoreboard even with a 1 handed wooden sword.
No need to buff polearm damage/speeds also.

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Danish Greatsword
weapon length: 124
weight: 2.5
difficulty: 15
speed rating: 92
weapon length: 124
thrust damage: 24 pierce
swing damage: 40 cut
slots: 2
Can't use on horseback
Secondary Mode
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Elegant Poleaxe
weapon length: 132
weight: 2
difficulty: 16
speed rating: 92
weapon length: 132
thrust damage: 26 pierce
swing damage: 39 cut
slots: 2
Can't use on horseback
Bonus against Shield
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Lets check pros/cons.

• 2 hander has more swing damage.Poleaxe has more stab damage.
• Speed is same
• 2 hander has higher reach.Poleaxe has bonus against shield
• Poleaxe has stun effect.2 hander has nothing to compensate against that !

RESULT
THERE IS NO REASON TO HAVE STUN EFFECT ON POLEARMS .

That is one great example. Removing the stun scares pole users, but I don't think they would be underpowered without it.

IMO, it just doesn't make damn sense that any polearm stuns you when a sword doesn't. Why would an axe stun you more than a sword? Ridiculous.

And long spears, awlpike and pikes wouldn't be much in a disadvantage anyway because they can stab faster than swords swing anyway (with their insane spinning before hitting - so realistic).

[Casimir]

Add 2h stun to balance the issue.

[Leshma]

Polearmers are afraid because they suck in general, like every other class beside the glorius twohanders.