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Re: Losing what you didn't lose after a victory
« Reply #30 on: November 11, 2011, 06:08:04 am »
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not fixable right now, needs to be patched ingame.

we cant patch currently, as we need to prepare the new launcher for WSE, and that takes some time.

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Re: Losing what you didn't lose after a victory
« Reply #31 on: November 11, 2011, 07:30:39 am »
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not fixable right now, needs to be patched ingame.

we cant patch currently, as we need to prepare the new launcher for WSE, and that takes some time.
how about give some time for winning teame after killing last man? say like 5  min
so they can loot some staf  :)
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Re: Losing what you didn't lose after a victory
« Reply #32 on: November 11, 2011, 10:29:20 am »
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not fixable right now, needs to be patched ingame.

we cant patch currently, as we need to prepare the new launcher for WSE, and that takes some time.
Too bad cuz it's really dragging down strategus right now.

Why would a bandit attack if he's sure to loose everything and gain very little, it makes small scall battle useless and discourage use of better gear.

There should be some kind of mechanism insuring you can actually benefit from victory, like the winner get half of the total gear used from the battle
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Re: Losing what you didn't lose after a victory
« Reply #33 on: November 11, 2011, 02:36:51 pm »
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not fixable right now, needs to be patched ingame.

we cant patch currently, as we need to prepare the new launcher for WSE, and that takes some time.
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Re: Losing what you didn't lose after a victory
« Reply #34 on: November 11, 2011, 03:23:48 pm »
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What's WSE

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Re: Losing what you didn't lose after a victory
« Reply #35 on: November 11, 2011, 04:51:49 pm »
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After my last battle, i did not loose anything. And I was using my best gear.
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Re: Losing what you didn't lose after a victory
« Reply #36 on: November 11, 2011, 09:09:57 pm »
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What's WSE
Fuuu, I haven't made a wiki page about it already! Damn, gotta do that.... but skyrim is done downloading. GIMME TIME GODDAMMIT!
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Re: Losing what you didn't lose after a victory
« Reply #37 on: November 11, 2011, 09:46:24 pm »
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http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?topic=151194.0

Guess there was a new version of it recently.
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Re: Losing what you didn't lose after a victory
« Reply #38 on: November 11, 2011, 10:03:40 pm »
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Kind of annoying - we had 5 archers with 5 nomad bows in their hands at the end of the battle and we only got 1 nomad bow after the battle.  This used to work in1st and 2nd strategus, not sure why suddenly need WSE script to keep what you have holding in your hands.  If its not working you could always provide winners with 20-25% of what the two parties started off with as captured loot, rather than the 2-3% that it is right now. 
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Re: Losing what you didn't lose after a victory
« Reply #39 on: November 12, 2011, 03:37:12 am »
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money earned for strat while playing cRPG should temporarily be drastically INCREASED to offset the loss of items in strat battles

x1 = 5g
x2 = 10g
3x = 25g
x4 = 50g
x5 = 100g

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Re: Losing what you didn't lose after a victory
« Reply #40 on: November 12, 2011, 10:43:28 am »
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I don't see the reason to lost anything when you win.
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Re: Losing what you didn't lose after a victory
« Reply #41 on: November 12, 2011, 12:19:53 pm »
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I don't see the reason to lost anything when you win.

* There needs to be a money drain.
* You don't want too strong of a situation where "the winners keep on winning" because they gained everything while the losers lost everything.

So you can satisfy both of these points, I think, by having gear get destroyed -- just not all of it.  If every battle results in 50% of the gear being destroyed and 50% recovered (or 75% lost and 25% recovered, or whatever) then you're losing money worldwide (which is necessary), and the winners get a perk, but it's not a HUGE perk that will let them steamroll the rest of the server.


The suggestions I had posted in the general strategus forum would solve this problem and seems like it would be something chadz could do on the web server.

Just snapshot the gear list before the battle, compare it to what's left after the battle and restore some percentage of the items that went missing.
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Re: Losing what you didn't lose after a victory
« Reply #42 on: November 12, 2011, 01:13:40 pm »
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Be patient, the guy told he will fix it, you are spoiled children...

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Re: Losing what you didn't lose after a victory
« Reply #43 on: November 12, 2011, 07:14:42 pm »
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Be patient, the guy told he will fix it, you are spoiled children...

What he said ...

money earned for strat while playing cRPG should temporarily be drastically INCREASED to offset the loss of items in strat battles

x1 = 5g
x2 = 10g
3x = 25g
x4 = 50g
x5 = 100g

You're nuts Diggles ...

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Re: Losing what you didn't lose after a victory
« Reply #44 on: November 13, 2011, 12:55:18 am »
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How is that nuts?  2 x5 ticks and you could afford 1 sumpter horse!

And technically chadz didnt state anywhere that he WOULD be fixing it, he gave an excuse of why hes not, which is not the same as saying hes going to fix it.

Most companies would stop what they're doing to address a game breaking bug like this along with villages not paying mercs, especially given how hard money is to come by.  Both have been around for months.
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