Some ATS Griefing

[Gristle]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE5obDd2c5E

I started recording when Copper, an archer, started complaining that a teammate was kicking him whenever he tried to shoot. JuiceLayer was griefing him for most of this and the following map. Him and Palatro(ll) would also setup ladders and destroy them with teammates on them, attempting to purposely wound or kill them.

I expect more from ATS members. They would never have let actions like this stand on their (now defunct) servers.

[epoch]

Funny thing, a few months ago my self and a chaos member were doing similar stuff as this and one of the ATS admins banned the other guy for 2 weeks.

I noticed the admin joined spec so i stopped but the other guy didnt c and he got banned.


I would suggest the same punishment for ATS members since their own admins layed down the previous ruling for the same offense. It is only fair.

In all honesty i see 2 weeks as being a bit harsh but since an ATS admin handed it out and now their own members are doing the same thing. Its the only justified response.

[Matey]

best ban request ever. the epic music and their inhumanity and shamful dispray brought tears to my eyes (like that commercial with the native crying after some redneck throws shit on the road).

[Earthdforce]

Will watch the video in a little bit and lay down some banhammer (if necessary)



EDIT: Alright, so, there was definitely some OBVIOUS rule breaking going on here. Juice will be banned for 5 days and Palatro for 4

[MrBovineJoni]

Hello one and all.

Juice Layer here with a list of further information for you:
1)I am around level 14 there.
2)Copper tk'd me right before this.
3)If you don't like how I use my ladders, I never forced you to use them.
4)When I threw the ladders the wrong way that was just plain awesome.
5)Admin's were on and NO warnings were issued, as I would have stopped if I was asked.
6)Instead of anyone asking me to stop I was just called a my old friend and recorded.

Be as it may I am intoxicated at the moment, maybe you didn't handle this very nicely.

Love,
Juice Layer

[Matey]

i know at least two people asked admins in admin chat to do something, either none were on, or the ones on werent doing much admining

[MrBovineJoni]

i know at least two people asked admins in admin chat to do something, either none were on, or the ones on werent doing much admining

I'm sure Grittles or whatever has some video proof of admins chatting to other people. I WANT THE UNEDITED VIDEO!

<3Juice<3Layer<3

[Matey]

uh, admins never talked in admin chat... when you hit 'i' you can talk and have only admins read it. sooo either no admins were on to read the pleas for justice, or they were badmins.

[MrBovineJoni]

uh, admins never talked in admin chat... when you hit 'i' you can talk and have only admins read it. sooo either no admins were on to read the pleas for justice, or they were badmins.

AGAIN I'm sure if we can see the ENTIRE video matey, as this was obviously EDITED we may see that other admins were on, and if admins that were there did not mind then maybe it was not so bad ehh? It also looks as if you were trying to bait the ban, just saying.

Love,
<3JuiceLayer<3

[epoch]

AGAIN I'm sure if we can see the ENTIRE video matey, as this was obviously EDITED we may see that other admins were on, and if admins that were there did not mind then maybe it was not so bad ehh? It also looks as if you were trying to bait the ban, just saying.

Love,
<3JuiceLayer<3

He was baiting your stupidity because you have been around for a long time and your an idiot enjoy the ban

<3 Epoch<3

[Diomedes]

Earth, I watched the video and it appears that all of the accused are guilty of teamwounding, griefing, and teamkilling. 

Additionally, the rules are on clear display in the forums.  When Juice Layer says he'd have stopped if he'd been asked he's basically saying "the laws only apply to me when an officer is, at the given time, giving me explicit instructions on which rules not to break."  This is unacceptable, but I'll leave the specifics of the banning to you.

This also speaks for itself:

2)Copper tk'd me right before this.
3)If you don't like how I use my ladders, I never forced you to use them.

[Gristle]

I asked for admin help after you repeatedly kicked Copper until he fell off the building. That action should not require a warning. It is an obvious rule violation (equal to team wounding/killing). Being low level is not an excuse. Being intoxicated is not an excuse. You were trolling, and you were caught. Again, I expect better from ATS.

I baited you to break the ladders other teammates were standing on? I baited you to try and kick Copper and myself? The only person controlling your actions was yourself. The admins can check the chat logs. I in no way provoked you.

[Earthdforce]

I would like to point out the

This section is for ban/unban requests, everything else will be considered spam and sanctioned accordingly.
Only posts allowed are on-topic posts by the people asking for a ban/unban, admins and people that can provide relevant information regarding the individual case.

• Do not post here if you don't have something directly case-related to say. No lobbying, general discussion whether a rule is fair, how admin is nub, etc. Take those things elsewhere, keep this area clear.

section of the rules.

Please take all discussion elsewhere. From this point forward everything irrelevant will be "considered spam and sanctioned accordingly"

[MrBovineJoni]

Thank you Earthdforce I think that was needed.

[oprah_winfrey]

Earth, I watched the video and it appears that all of the accused are guilty of teamwounding, griefing, and teamkilling. 

It is my understanding from reading the rules, that kicking players is not against the rules, unless used for griefing. Griefing would imply that it is malicious and unwanted. Maybe asking Bovine to stop would be better then recording a video, editing out parts (for whatever reason), and adding cheesy music.

I don't see team wounding and team killing, maybe you could point out where that occured.