[Mechanics] 1h Stab

[Moncho]

I wanted to ask about why the 1h stab bounces so much.
I have a MW Nordic Champion Sword which has 23 pierce, and my stabs bounce a lot (even with speed bonus!)
On the other hand, on a 2her alt, I use a Danish Greatsword, with 24 pierce, and it hardly ever bounces when thrusting! (Same happens with Bastard Sword (21 pierce) and all the other 2hers)
In both builds I got 152 wpf, so I wanted to ask if this is my fault (not understanding the stab) or wether it is hardcoded (and need the WSE to change it), or if it is just that noone has complained (which i doubt, even though I couldnt find a similar topic searching in the forum).

[Digglez]

fix please. i'd really like the ability for people to fall on my sword like in the movies, so I can whisper taunts in their ears as they die

[Dezilagel]

Turning fixes this for me on my 1h alt.

[Jarlek]

Turning fixes this for me on my 1h alt.

Works for all weapons, really. 1h, 2h, pole, spear&shield. All can stab "point blanc" if they turn into the stab.

[Overdriven]

Turn into your thrusts? When I first played crpg I was a shielder with a Long Espada. That thing bounces like hell if you try and thrust normally. I got pretty good at learning how to use the turn to give it that extra punch which stopped it bouncing most of the time. A lot of people also seem to get confused when you do it.

Unfortunately I'm now no where near as good at doing that any more. Spent to long on horse back 

[Moncho]

Yes, I know turning solves it, what I see ridiculous though is that with a 2her you can just use the lolstab, whereas with 1her you NEED to use the turning, which (at least for me) does not work in crowded areas, where stabs and overheads should be the choice.

[Bobthehero]

A 30-40 angle is what you need to turn in your stabs.

[Dezilagel]

Yes, I know turning solves it, what I see ridiculous though is that with a 2her you can just use the lolstab, whereas with 1her you NEED to use the turning, which (at least for me) does not work in crowded areas, where stabs and overheads should be the choice.

Wat?

I'd like to see you using any stab without turning point-blank.

Yes, turning your stab can be a death-sentence in crowded areas, but then it's so much worse for 2h/pole since they are so much longer.

[SoA_Sir_ODHarry]

Its really annoying but Im not sure if its a bug or they want that for the balance because shielders got a shield...
But in the end of the day its just wrong , they should remove the stab of 1h weapons completly or annonce it as a bug which gonna get fixed....
currently its kinda luck if its fits or not and can be avoided due too weapons without stab^^

greetz OD


i remember a thread where s1 said that a 1h stab too the face is always sure hit

[hippy_with_a_scimi]

Its really annoying but Im not sure if its a bug or they want that for the balance because shielders got a shield...
But in the end of the day its just wrong , they should remove the stab of 1h weapons completly or annonce it as a bug which gonna get fixed....
currently its kinda luck if its fits or not and can be avoided due too weapons without stab^^

greetz OD


i remember a thread where s1 said that a 1h stab too the face is always sure hit

 yes watch people like Bobby the hero ! or Thul with espada , one really good tip  :   protect your face!

[ManOfWar]

what about the bounces at like max range? 2h stutter the person while 1h bounces and gets the user killed

[Diomedes]

what about the bounces at like max range? 2h stutter the person while 1h bounces and gets the user killed

This.  Last night I bounced off RipperX's armour (43?) with a MW Italian Sword (27p) stabbing him in the chest at very slightly over perfect distance while running into the hit.  I have 26 STR, 8 powerstrike, and I didn't even stagger him.

[Siiem]

Turn into your thrusts? When I first played crpg I was a shielder with a Long Espada. That thing bounces like hell if you try and thrust normally. I got pretty good at learning how to use the turn to give it that extra punch which stopped it bouncing most of the time. A lot of people also seem to get confused when you do it.

Unfortunately I'm now no where near as good at doing that any more. Spent to long on horse back 

How do you bounce with a long espada stab unless he's like in your face... but then you know you have to turn anyway.

[Vibe]

This.  Last night I bounced off RipperX's armour (43?) with a MW Italian Sword (27p) stabbing him in the chest at very slightly over perfect distance while running into the hit.  I have 26 STR, 8 powerstrike, and I didn't even stagger him.

Stuff like this shouldn't happen. The 1H stab must be revised.

[BlackMilk]

I'm using a Short Sword on my alt and I dont get any bounces with stabs at all. Seems like it was impossible to bounce unless I'm really doing something wrong.