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Death of horse should hurt the rider
« on: October 17, 2011, 08:50:57 pm »
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The death of a horse should seriously impact the health of the rider, especially if he is riding fast and heavily armoured. Im tired of piking down horses just to have a full health infantry-person spawn in front of me.

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Re: Death of horse should hurt the rider
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2011, 08:57:27 pm »
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Most of the time if the horse is killed by melee the rider is hit aswell.
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Re: Death of horse should hurt the rider
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2011, 09:00:05 pm »
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Not really, I killed plenty of horses without the rider feeling any impact whatsoever. Regardless, if he comes in full gallop and I stab the horse to death with my pike he should die from the impact into the ground at least half the time.

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Re: Death of horse should hurt the rider
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2011, 09:13:33 pm »
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Also, if the rider is dismounted and his horse is killed, he should suffer a 25% HP loss over the course of x seconds to simulate the emotional pain he is experiencing.
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Re: Death of horse should hurt the rider
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2011, 09:14:19 pm »
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No.

Chances are the rider will often die anyway, or at least get very hurt due to a sword blow to the brain while he is floundering on the floor.

Besides, in reality many people can land on the ground from a falling horse anyway. Sure, it may not be as easy in heavy armour, but there are lots of us in light light armour.

Also, if the rider is dismounted and his horse is killed, he should suffer a 25% HP loss over the course of x seconds to simulate the emotional pain he is experiencing.

I'd like to elaborate this. Automatically send the rider to a corner of the map in a forced crouch, rocking back and forth from the trauma of it all.
« Last Edit: October 17, 2011, 09:17:17 pm by Overdriven »

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Re: Death of horse should hurt the rider
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2011, 09:14:26 pm »
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there is no honor in killing a man's horse, always aim for the rider

if you accidentally miss the rider and the horse dies, just jump, get some hang time, and thrust at him while he's on the ground.  He's probably now dead.
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Re: Death of horse should hurt the rider
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2011, 09:40:26 pm »
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Horse riders already take a long stun while on the ground.  Easy to get shot or poked to death if people are paying attention.  Adding more damage from the fall has a realism argument, but gameplaywise I think the current system works just fine. 

The one thing I have a beef with is how fallen riders sometime rubberband and warp to a different location due to M&B bugs.  I've definitely been killed before because I've taken aim at a place I believed the rider fell, only to have him rubber band right next to me.  Fix that and I'm even more in favor of leaving as-is.
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Re: Death of horse should hurt the rider
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2011, 10:04:13 pm »
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Also, if the rider is dismounted and his horse is killed, he should suffer a 25% HP loss over the course of x seconds to simulate the emotional pain he is experiencing.


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Re: Death of horse should hurt the rider
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2011, 11:56:37 pm »
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Can we roundfile this please?

You are tired of piking. hahahaha ...
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Re: Death of horse should hurt the rider
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2011, 12:04:45 am »
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YES! As a horseman I say we introduce this together with bumps that instakills!

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Re: Death of horse should hurt the rider
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2011, 01:54:22 am »
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It makes perfect sense for a rider to get severely hurt when they get thrown off their horse.

I'm kind of baffled really, didn't expect so many learned scholars to come with such 'convincing arguments' opposing that...

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Re: Death of horse should hurt the rider
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2011, 02:42:29 am »
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It makes perfect sense for a rider to get severely hurt when they get thrown off their horse.

I'm kind of baffled really, didn't expect so many learned scholars to come with such 'convincing arguments' opposing that...
It also makes sense for a horse stomping on your chest to smash your ribs and render you breathless and in a near dead state, but instead ya just suffer small amounts of damage unless you are armorless.
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Re: Death of horse should hurt the rider
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2011, 04:29:20 am »
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Horse riders already take a long stun while on the ground. 

Except that collision bugs cause the rider to be UNDER the ground, which blocks the overhand smashes into their otherwise helpless body.
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Re: Death of horse should hurt the rider
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2011, 05:28:57 am »
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With all due respect, stop making realism arguments. They do not belong, at all, with no exceptions, in cRPG. Clearly. Good day.
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Re: Death of horse should hurt the rider
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2011, 05:43:16 am »
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With all due respect, stop making realism arguments. They do not belong, at all, with no exceptions, in cRPG. Clearly. Good day.

So a rider flung from a galloping horse takes no damage, but a player flung from a broken ladder gets insta-death? Forget 'realism', how about some fucking equality?

What the hell is the problem with a rider taking a modicum of falling damage? Half the time trying to hit a downed rider a weapon collides with the ground instead.
« Last Edit: October 18, 2011, 05:46:04 am by Duke »