Weaponmaster 7 or 8? Which to choose?

[Danath]

Based on my points available and what not, please tell me if the extra point to get Weaponmaster 8 is worth it over Weaponmaster 7.

E.g.

Two hand wpp on WM7: 164

Two hand wpp on WM8: 172

Share your thoughts. Benefit of 8 WPP instead of 7 in real terms

Please keep on topic thanks

[deebee]

8 WPM is always better than 7 WPM?

The question is, where else can you spend this skill point that would make 8 WPM less useful (Examples being shield, athletics etc.)

[Rhaelys]

Based on my points available and what not, please tell me if the extra point to get Weaponmaster 8 is worth it over Weaponmaster 7.

E.g.

Two hand wpp on WM7: 164

Two hand wpp on WM8: 172

Share your thoughts. Benefit of 8 WPP instead of 7 in real terms

Please keep on topic thanks

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[Danath]

Build is a ninja, the extra skill point could go into Ironflesh.

Thats beside the point though, I want to know if there is any REAL-world benefit to 8 more WPP points between WM7 and WM8 or if there is more at play.

E.g. swinging 0.0001 seconds faster is not a real world benefit for example. But I do not know at all regarding WM7 > 8 if there's a better benefit other than invisibly faster swing... please share thoughts

[Tristan]

My archer clan mate always said that something might happened when he crossed 170+... it might be psycological though!

[Z_E_N]

Honestly, its no longer worth it.

Back before the wpf scaling was destroyed, you could get 180 and even 200 WPF pretty easily.  And back then it made a huge difference (polearm agi was incredibly fast).

However, if you want to Hybrid, using the points you get from 8 Weapon master could probably net you 100 points in another skill (throwing for example). 

[Ganon]

I concur, with that high wpf the cost of increasing it is so high, it's not worth it. If you're not a hybrid, spend it on something else.

[Gristle]

If I only had one point left and both were available, I would always take a point in Weapon Master over a point in Iron Flesh.

[The_Bloody_Nine]

since patch I go (or plan to) never above WM5 for one weapon. 146-147 wpf is enough and you can spent those skill points (or the stat points used for high agility) much more effective on other things like more PS or more Athletic or shield or whatever depending on build. With hybrids its another case of course.

[[ptx]]

7 is more stylish than 8.

[Dexxtaa]

You don't need that much wpf.

[Cepeshi]

check these: http://infinitum.dyndns.org/crpg/calc.htm

when i was counting if its worth going over 150 wpf, it was not, difference between 173 and 150 on 30 armor target was avg. 1,5dmg if i remember correctly. Instead of that you could get 150 / 113 or something like that, with 5 WM you should get to like 148 or so, which is just minor difference (ofc even 2hp can mean kill/survival, but still)

[Elmetiacos]

The answer is that nobody knows and there's no way of finding out without conducting some very extensive survey of thousands of battles. Are there more occasions when having 10 more wpf wins you the fight than there are occasions when you are reduced to 1 HP or 2 HP and your point of Ironflesh saves you? Nobody really knows.

[Danath]

Thanks Cepeshi that kind of makes the decision easier.

New question:

Str 13 > 14

Or

WM7 > WM8

What would you choose?

[Gristle]

Strength 13 to 14 gives 1 hit point. Nothing else. WM 7 to 8 will make your two handed attacks ever so slightly faster and stronger. I would personally take a point of damage over a point of health, because you will have only 1 health bar per round, but you will make many attacks. Again though, both are very small gains. Strength 15 will actually give you some other options if you can free up another skill point or 2. For future generations, I would stop at WM 4 or 5 and get PS up to 5 at least. Put any remaining points towards maxing athletics if you haven't already.