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Is archery fine as it is ?

Yeah, everything is fine.
39 (23.1%)
No, something needs to be changed. There is too many archers using bodkins.
40 (23.7%)
No, something needs to be changed. All archers are OP.
13 (7.7%)
No, something needs to be changed. Archers hit like a truck. QQ
28 (16.6%)
Yeah, everything is fine but longbow needs some love.
32 (18.9%)
Ihatearchers.rage.qq.com
17 (10.1%)

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Author Topic: Plz Stop this pewpew madness without overnerfing it.  (Read 16378 times)

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Offline Kay of Sauvage

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Re: Plz Stop this pewpew madness without overnerfing it.
« Reply #180 on: November 26, 2011, 02:44:28 am »
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Lies, it doesn't ever settle back to the point where it would if you didnt draw at all. You lose at least 25 wpf in accuracy by moving around, even after you stop.

Ah, so you don't move around as you draw the bow in between shots? I must be seeing things.

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Re: Plz Stop this pewpew madness without overnerfing it.
« Reply #181 on: November 26, 2011, 03:16:14 am »
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Make it so drawing a bow takes much longer if you move while doing it, or make running MUCH slower when drawing a bow, but not completely disable drawing while moving, cuz that would be overnerfing. As of now there is no real penalty for drawing while moving, so that you see archers doing that even when theyre not being shot at, there should be some major penalty for moving during a draw.
« Last Edit: November 26, 2011, 03:17:45 am by Nagasoup »

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Re: Plz Stop this pewpew madness without overnerfing it.
« Reply #182 on: November 26, 2011, 09:55:19 am »
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I haven't read much of the posts but, how is hybriding not OP?

With my archer alt, I have at level 30:
5 IF
6 PS
6 PD
6 ATH
6 WM

140 wpf in archery (quite accurate if you play a mid range game)
85 wpf in 1h (proficient melee wpf)

My 2h alt is basically on par with my archer in melee except higher wpf or maybe 1 more ath/PS... But with 1h weapons, so many high speed weapons to choose from. Anyone else think this? Can't even imagine how awesome this kind of character would be with masterworks.
The problem with hybrids is that they are largely useless in strat (you don't want your archers dying in a place where they might lose their bow). They are fantastic in battle though.

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Re: Plz Stop this pewpew madness without overnerfing it.
« Reply #183 on: November 26, 2011, 12:13:04 pm »
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Archerhybrids are totally a waste of time , trust me everything under 160 wpf is shit if u use long or rusbow.

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Re: Plz Stop this pewpew madness without overnerfing it.
« Reply #184 on: November 26, 2011, 01:03:54 pm »
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Anyway as a ranged class, you only need athletics, a few points in PS and a mace to stand a chance at melee. And by standing a chance, I mean a real one. You don't need wpf at all with the mace. And your lightweight setup + athletics gives you blazing speed and acceleration, largely compensating for the mace shortness.

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Re: Plz Stop this pewpew madness without overnerfing it.
« Reply #185 on: November 26, 2011, 01:37:45 pm »
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And your lightweight setup + athletics gives you blazing speed and acceleration

do not forget - this works with any kind of build. For example - Shock trooper (15-24) with Bec or morningstar.

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Re: Plz Stop this pewpew madness without overnerfing it.
« Reply #186 on: November 26, 2011, 01:42:03 pm »
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do not forget - this works with any kind of build. For example - Shock trooper (15-24) with Bec or morningstar.

i do that alot with 18/21

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Re: Plz Stop this pewpew madness without overnerfing it.
« Reply #187 on: November 26, 2011, 01:45:50 pm »
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Ah, so you don't move around as you draw the bow in between shots? I must be seeing things.

Moving around and shooting with the bow only works at point blank range. Otherwise as soon as you move with your bow drawn the crosshairs widen, even if you stop they keep just getting wider.

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Re: Plz Stop this pewpew madness without overnerfing it.
« Reply #188 on: November 26, 2011, 01:49:14 pm »
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Moving around and shooting with the bow only works at point blank range. Otherwise as soon as you move with your bow drawn the crosshairs widen, even if you stop they keep just getting wider.
Sigh. How come you guys don't know how archery works? Come on! You move while you draw, then stop right before you would normally be able to shoot. Success! You just moved while drawing and shot at 100% normal accuracy!
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Re: Plz Stop this pewpew madness without overnerfing it.
« Reply #189 on: November 26, 2011, 07:31:39 pm »
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Sigh. How come you guys don't know how archery works? Come on! You move while you draw, then stop right before you would normally be able to shoot. Success! You just moved while drawing and shot at 100% normal accuracy!

They are GK´s what did you expect?
I've never played a server where people split up as much or as often as on EU1.  No wonder range is having a field day.

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Re: Plz Stop this pewpew madness without overnerfing it.
« Reply #190 on: November 26, 2011, 07:40:03 pm »
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They are GK´s what did you expect?

It's funny because Tzar has no idea how cavalry works.
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Re: Plz Stop this pewpew madness without overnerfing it.
« Reply #191 on: November 26, 2011, 07:54:30 pm »
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It's funny because Tzar has no idea how cavalry works.

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Re: Plz Stop this pewpew madness without overnerfing it.
« Reply #192 on: November 26, 2011, 09:36:28 pm »
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Well, Tzar has no idea how ANYTHING works, so I gotta agree with ToD here...
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Re: Plz Stop this pewpew madness without overnerfing it.
« Reply #193 on: November 27, 2011, 05:29:57 pm »
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Well, Tzar has no idea how ANYTHING works, so I gotta agree with ToD here...

Its funny because all i see around the forums is a bunch of biased sobs crying for nerfs of the opposite classes an claiming to being experts at the game 24/7 like yourself.

Dunno why i still borther posting in this section lol i must enjoy watching lobbyism at its finest

« Last Edit: November 27, 2011, 05:37:53 pm by Tzar »
I've never played a server where people split up as much or as often as on EU1.  No wonder range is having a field day.

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Re: Plz Stop this pewpew madness without overnerfing it.
« Reply #194 on: November 27, 2011, 05:34:45 pm »
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Its funny because all i see around the forums is a bunch of biased sobs crying for nerfs of the opposite classes an claiming to being experts at the game 24/7 like yourself.

Then stop surrounding yourself with mirrors. Problem solved.
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