Plz Stop this pewpew madness without overnerfing it.

[Dezilagel]

Fact is, you all will cry about archers in 1 year too     cos you cant deal with our unfair world,    u just dont accept that you get killed from range. Everyone who wears something with a MAIL and cries about op BODKINS+LONGBOW  is a noob in my opinion. I agree with the roofmonkeycampingdelayingshit.

mail very very bad !!

injustice ! !

 I love Mail but

 a very difficult game, mail  and hit hard


Seriously, wth are you trying to say?

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[Arrowblood]

mail very very bad !!

injustice ! !

 I love Mail but

 a very difficult game, mail  and hit hard


Seriously, wth are you trying to say?

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Fixed, im sorry im just a old man from chocolate chip cookieland who says KETTENHEMD

[Dezilagel]

Fixed, im sorry im just a old man from chocolate chip cookieland who says KETTENHEMD

So you're saying that all people who use chainmail and complain are noobs, but those who use plate or clothes, their input is valid?

What's your reasoning behind that?

[Kay of Sauvage]

Because it's already implemented lol?

Uh, no it's not. Archers still move while drawing the bow, they just stop at the end of it to settle the aim for the shot.

[Arrowblood]

what do you think is a bodkin arrowhead developed for?

[Xant]

what do you think is a bodkin arrowhead developed for?

it was developed for being overpowered or so i hear

[Arrowblood]

ye thats it
for people in lowarmor and CHAINMAILS.

[Lech]

There is no chainmail, it's mail. And archery need to be nerfed, in damage and by decreasing weight or length of ranged weapons to make them run slower with them. I can totally see runaway archer in cloth to run for his life without bow and arrows, but doing it and shooting at the same time is stupid. Ma

Kiting need to go, it's not like archers can't cooperate and using teamwork to runaway from athletic 9 ninjas when there is two archers with 0 athletic each. They can. I don't see why they should do it alone, rambo-style.

[duurrr]

Because derp, its, derp, already derpimplemented?

fixed

[Arrowblood]

There is no chainmail, it's mail. And archery need to be nerfed, in damage and by decreasing weight or length of ranged weapons to make them run slower with them. I can totally see runaway archer in cloth to run for his life without bow and arrows, but doing it and shooting at the same time is stupid. Ma

Kiting need to go, it's not like archers can't cooperate and using teamwork to runaway from athletic 9 ninjas when there is two archers with 0 athletic each. They can. I don't see why they should do it alone, rambo-style.

everyone in crpg wants to be a rambo, and archery needs only longbowpierce

[Elmokki]

I can accept dying from ranged. I strongly do advocate making ranged a serious threat to especially non-shielders which it currently is.

What I do not advocate is making ranged - mind you, throwers and crossbowmen are pretty much fine right now - Legolas like archers who can avoid enemies and shoot while doing that (kiting).

The mail armors (50ish body armor) seriously don't help against archers at all. You can't catch them -> they'll eventually have shot you enough to kill you, and that eventually isn't THAT long. Heavier armor is better if you are ignoring archers and fighting other people, but for catching archers it's generally more likely you have any chance of doing it if you're fast and lightly armored.

[Rumblood]

Uh, no it's not. Archers still move while drawing the bow, they just stop at the end of it to settle the aim for the shot.

Lies, it doesn't ever settle back to the point where it would if you didnt draw at all. You lose at least 25 wpf in accuracy by moving around, even after you stop.

[PieParadox]

I haven't read much of the posts but, how is hybriding not OP?

With my archer alt, I have at level 30:
5 IF
6 PS
6 PD
6 ATH
6 WM

140 wpf in archery (quite accurate if you play a mid range game)
85 wpf in 1h (proficient melee wpf)

My 2h alt is basically on par with my archer in melee except higher wpf or maybe 1 more ath/PS... But with 1h weapons, so many high speed weapons to choose from. Anyone else think this? Can't even imagine how awesome this kind of character would be with masterworks.

[Jarlek]

I haven't read much of the posts but, how is hybriding not OP?

With my archer alt, I have at level 30:
5 IF
6 PS
6 PD
6 ATH
6 WM

140 wpf in archery (quite accurate if you play a mid range game)
85 wpf in 1h (proficient melee wpf)

My 2h alt is basically on par with my archer in melee except higher wpf or maybe 1 more ath/PS... But with 1h weapons, so many high speed weapons to choose from. Anyone else thinka this?

And still they whine that they can't fight in melee....

Because all of them (that whines) goes something like THIS build instead:

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Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)
Strength: 24
Agility: 18
Skills to attributes: 14
Athletics: 3
Power Draw: 8
Weapon Master: 6
Archery: 154

Boohooo, I can't fight in melee! It's unfair! I can only kill plate in 3 arrows! Boohooo! Those people DISGUST me >:/

[Leshma]

To be honest, melee archer hybrid isn't OP. If it was good (OP) I would play it. Imagine 6 PS, 6 PD, 8 ATH, 8 WM, 160 Archery, 120 2H WPP archer using horn bow, 2 stacks of bodkins and longsword. Loomed everything and +14 on body with light armour. I would totally play such build.

Paul, please make it possible and while you're at it raise weight limit for wpf reduction to 10 weight. I want fancy helmet with +7 head armour and decent boots to go with my ~50 body armour triple loomed amour.