except if you read cmp's posts, he banned kesh as leverage for finding the leak, not for any actual crimes. He even stated specifically that if kesh revealed his information source that they would unban him; he then decided to just keep kesh permabanned because they have now apparently looked into the multi accounting accusations and decided kesh is guilty... in other words, assuming they actually did investigate instead of just saying "well fine, you won't reveal the name of this random person who told you stuff?! then you can stay ban!" it still shows that cmp isn't trustworthy; either A. if kesh had been able and willing to name the leak then he would be unban despite apparently deserving to be ban thus circumventing proper justice or B. if kesh was able and willing to name the leak they would have just said "lol u ban anyway" and thus been proven as lying.
cmp is more concerned with banning someone for revealing that the NA team fucked up hard than he is about anything else. he has permaban TWO people in an attempt to find out who leaked, he promised to unban one of those people if he revealed the leak, in other words, promising a pardon for any real crimes that player may or may not have commited if they just reveal the source of that chat log. So it is apparently a bigger crime to post logs from that private chat (which multiple other people have since done) than it is to multiaccount (as cmp is now claiming kesh is confirmed as having done)
the more i think about this the more it just disgusts me.
and as bad as all that is, it still doesn't explain why vick is banned and why they still care about who revealed the chat log.
Why they wanted to find the leak is obvious, and Canary already explained it to you earlier. The leak's already happened, people re-posting joke versions is meaningless, it's the person who was in the channel who decided to give it to Kesh almost immediately afterwards they were concerned about. It wasn't the content they wanted to stop from getting out, it was the fact someone got something like that out in the first place.
After Smoothrich banned Kesh & drama ensued (including the leaked logs) the following steps happened, loosely in order but I'm probably not completely accurate:
1) Kesh was given the ultimatum to receive a lighter ban if he named the leaker, or to remain permabanned. Kesh originally implicated Smoothrich, and now is claiming a little birdy told him. Either way Kesh lied or is still lying about who informed him. That's a pretty bad start.
2) Next there was discussion/research about who could have been the person who leaked it in the first place. I don't know much of how that went down ultimately, I was around when Vick was being discussed but I wasn't around when he actually got banned or if other information came to light. The reason certainly wasn't "smoothrich said so", I can guarantee that.
3) I'm assuming at this point Kesh was researched to see if his ban from smooth was justified, and he was found guilty of multi-accounting so the permaban is currently sticking. Regardless of everything else, there's that. Pretty cut & dry.
4) Maybe around the time as #3 Smooth's actions were reviewed and he was deadminned. I wasn't around for all of that discussion. I'm also not sure when exactly Vick was banned.
5) I think next steps are continuing research. Maybe Vick is being banned temporarily, maybe he was proven, I honestly have no idea.
Anyways Matey let me pose this to you: If cmp & the devs were doing this solely to save face, they could have easily thrown Smoothrich under the bus completely. They could say "smooth fucked up, Kesh's ban is unjustified, we have a renegade admin on the loose" and just deadmin smooth and be done with it.
Instead they deadminned smooth, but they ALSO looked further into the situation and determined there was just cause to keep Kesh banned. If this is an issue of saving face and covering up some big screwup why would they leave Kesh banned? The answer is pretty obvious.
It really isn't worth discussing anymore. Kesh is guilty, Vick is either guilty or they are continuing research, Smoothrich was deadminned for handling the original situation inappropriately. And frankly if you are so suspicious of the devs that you are unwilling to take the two involved at their words, why are you here?
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