So about that new throwing craze ?

[okiN]

Pre-Jan throwing is back!

No it's not.

[PhantomZero]

So how many solid projectile hits should a horse be able to take?

They should bounce off armored horses like Pakistani pebbles off Israeli tanks.

Horses should have the same armor penetration models as Tank simulators, if you don't hit it at the correct angle, it just bounces off. That would own so hard, deflects off your champ plated charger and kills the guy's teammate.

[Smoothrich]

So how many solid projectile hits should a horse be able to take?

At least a little more then a rouncey would be nice, but horses HP are too low and all projectiles seemingly completely ignore armor and get massive speed bonuses against cav and just lay them out with ease, nerf pierce, nerf throwing, nerf bows, or buff cav hp, thanks in advance

[Mithus]

ps: how many posts before some moderator put the topic to game balance forum?

[Turboflex]

At least a little more then a rouncey would be nice, but horses HP are too low and all projectiles seemingly completely ignore armor and get massive speed bonuses against cav and just lay them out with ease, nerf pierce, nerf throwing, nerf bows, or buff cav hp, thanks in advance

If we are talking a jarid/bodkin (armour piercing) shot to the head of a horse that's coming towards the thrower (so extra relative speed), a heavy horse having a chance to surviving that headshot is already very strong. It also definitely takes 3-4 jarid side shots to drop a heavy armoured horse that's circling vs 2 for a rouncey. I think a horse being able to survive more than 4 jarid hits would be fairly OP.

[Leesin]

They should bounce off armored horses like Pakistani pebbles off Israeli tanks.

Horses should have the same armor penetration models as Tank simulators, if you don't hit it at the correct angle, it just bounces off. That would own so hard, deflects off your champ plated charger and kills the guy's teammate.

You talk about a realistic armour system and then mention a thrown weapon or arrow ricocheting off of armour and killing someone else like it's a bullet, you kind of ruined a your idea with the last part, lol. But that aside, I doubt the engine is capable of that kind of complex armour system.

[Turkhammer]

ride champion cataphract behind enemy lines

thrower takes off half of my horses HP with one axe

lose other half to single arrow from mw horn bow with mw bodkins

leave server

Big target, sucks to be Cav.

[Turkhammer]

They should bounce off armored horses like Pakistani pebbles off Israeli tanks.

Horses should have the same armor penetration models as Tank simulators, if you don't hit it at the correct angle, it just bounces off. That would own so hard, deflects off your champ plated charger and kills the guy's teammate.

Such fantasy.  I don't think you could armor a horse sufficiently against xbows and spears and still have it move.  Cavalry didn't operate in actual combat like it does in Crpg.  It was use in mass, as a huge battering ram, not in singletons that could be subject to concentrated ranged fire against it's flank.

[SixThumbs]

I was a thrower last gen using heavy axes and it was comical with the amount of axes I've put into people before they've gone down, or didn't and trudged through the crowd to get me.

[Tears of Destiny]

I was there in the age of throwing, huscarls and barmace surpremacy....

Today is nothing like that hellish hailstorm.

[Torben]

I was there in the age of throwing, huscarls and barmace surpremacy....

Today is nothing like that hellish hailstorm.

i miss those days : /

[Kreczor]

I know nothing of these times of old.
What I do know is that it sometimes takes one javelin to kill my lancer....



I'm gonna go make a throwing alt...

[Serfonz]

Speed bonus is a bitch, ain't it? :p

[Smoothrich]

If we are talking a jarid/bodkin (armour piercing) shot to the head of a horse that's coming towards the thrower (so extra relative speed), a heavy horse having a chance to surviving that headshot is already very strong. It also definitely takes 3-4 jarid side shots to drop a heavy armoured horse that's circling vs 2 for a rouncey. I think a horse being able to survive more than 4 jarid hits would be fairly OP.

That's great, too bad jarids regularly one shot or nearly one shot champion cataphracts now, and horn bows 1 shot rounceys with ease

[Tears of Destiny]

I am now wondering if said Jarid was from a heavy PT thrower who headshot the horse who was also running straight towards it...