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Since it is actually technically historically accurate to use a pike on a horse, should it really be a bannable offense?

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Voting closed: October 03, 2011, 06:04:18 pm

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Should Pikes on Horseback be Legal?
« on: September 28, 2011, 06:04:18 pm »
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Since the game isn't historically limited to medieval age, and gunpowder era armor and (non-gunpowder) weapons are considered acceptable, I would like to point out that Hussars used really long lances. (We already have hussar helmets, we just use the turkish name for them.) This being the case, should we really be banning people for using a pike on horseback?

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The kopia lance was the main offensive weapon of the hussar. The lances were based on the Balkan (Serbian) and finally Hungarian lances except the Polish lances could have been longer and, like their predecessors from the Balkans and Western Europe, they were hollowed, with two halves glued together and painted, and even often richly gilded. They were commonly made from fir-wood, with the lance point being made from forged steel. They had a gałka large wooden ball which served as the handle guard. The hussar's lance usually ranged from 4.5 to 6.20 meters in length.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_hussars#Weaponry


The length of the pike varried dramatically over history, but there were definitely pikes that were the same size as Hussar lances.

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The pike was an extremely long weapon, varying considerably in size, from 3 to 7.5 metres (10 to 25 feet) long.[2] It had a wooden shaft with an iron or steel spearhead affixed. The shaft near the head was often reinforced with metal strips called "cheeks" or langets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pike_%28weapon%29#Design


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Re: Should Pikes on Horseback be Legal?
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2011, 06:06:36 pm »
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Do you even know what balance is?

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Re: Should Pikes on Horseback be Legal?
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2011, 06:07:36 pm »
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I say no, for balance reasons.
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Re: Should Pikes on Horseback be Legal?
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2011, 06:07:58 pm »
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Re: Should Pikes on Horseback be Legal?
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2011, 06:08:25 pm »
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"they were hollowed"
keywords. pikes aren't hollow.

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Re: Should Pikes on Horseback be Legal?
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2011, 06:12:59 pm »
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Whoops. I cast my vote wrong. I vote "yes"

It should be bannable for balance reasons.

A quick question, though. If it is bannable, why can't the devs make it unusable on horseback? I understand that they would have if they could, but what is preventing them?

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« Last Edit: September 28, 2011, 06:19:31 pm by TurmoilTom »

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Re: Should Pikes on Horseback be Legal?
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2011, 06:14:40 pm »
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Length makes it too powerful on horseback.

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Re: Should Pikes on Horseback be Legal?
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2011, 06:15:16 pm »
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"they were hollowed"
keywords. pikes aren't hollow.

We could just make them weigh less when used on horseback. Simple coding fix right?
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Re: Should Pikes on Horseback be Legal?
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2011, 06:15:40 pm »
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Errr... you should have voted yes then
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Re: Should Pikes on Horseback be Legal?
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2011, 06:22:25 pm »
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Or just bring in a new, really long lance with like 50 speed and damage equal to the weakest lance.
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Re: Should Pikes on Horseback be Legal?
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2011, 06:24:17 pm »
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Or just bring in a new, really long lance with like 50 speed and damage equal to the weakest lance.

50 speed would make it way to powerful with the speedbonus.  also why the fuck would anyone want a longer lance.  are you guys gay?  lancers would be no better than archers.  cumgulping transvestite pussies. 
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Re: Should Pikes on Horseback be Legal?
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2011, 06:30:05 pm »
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50 speed would make it way to powerful with the speedbonus.  also why the fuck would anyone want a longer lance.  are you guys gay?  lancers would be no better than archers.  cumgulping transvestite pussies.

Huh? Fire and sword has 300 length lances, with shit speed(like 60 compared to almost 80 on everything else).

With WSE it shouldn't be hard to change the hit to be at the tip. Meaning you'd have to be REALLY damn good with thrusting to hit.(making couching with it better than thrusting)
(Fire and sword also has lance's crush through blocks if the horse is fast enough which if you ask me would be nicer than a longer lance)

Someone's also obviously a 2h. But cavalry WERE powerful.
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Re: Should Pikes on Horseback be Legal?
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2011, 06:34:08 pm »
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Re: Should Pikes on Horseback be Legal?
« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2011, 06:39:51 pm »
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Huh? Fire and sword has 300 length lances, with shit speed(like 60 compared to almost 80 on everything else).

With WSE it shouldn't be hard to change the hit to be at the tip. Meaning you'd have to be REALLY damn good with thrusting to hit.(making couching with it better than thrusting)
(Fire and sword also has lance's crush through blocks if the horse is fast enough which if you ask me would be nicer than a longer lance)

Someone's also obviously a 2h. But cavalry WERE powerful.

the slower the weapons speed the higher its speed bonus damage.  and this aint fire and sword.  and the game is balanced now,  so why the fuck would we need longer lances.
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Re: Should Pikes on Horseback be Legal?
« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2011, 06:48:46 pm »
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Why for the love of god we have realism discussion sub-forum? :rolleyes: