Best Ancient / Medieval Military History Movies: I'll start...

[Bobthehero]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3hn6fFTxeo
Because I trust everyone in cRPG to be stupid enough to believe you.

[bredeus]

Master Yoda is Dumbledore then.

[Thucydides]

goddamnit bob you stole my thunder

[HarunYahya]

This is a huge topic and an interesting one that there is alot of conflicting information on. 
No way to put everything into one post without it being a massive wall of text, but there is another historical view out there that hasn't caught much attention.  Mainly because mainstream historians have already bought and sold the idea that Troy was in Turkey (the site is now called Troia, in a city renamed Truva by the Turkish government) and this has been taught over the last many years as 'truth'.

However, there has been more 'evidence' that Troy may have very well been in Cornwall.  And the "Achaeans" very possibly may have not been Greeks, but Celts that inhabited that part of Greece during that era.  And hence part of the reason that it is known as Greek Mythology, since Greeks derived most of their mythology directly handed down from the Celts.

It's wild, I know, but there are some pretty strong indicators that point to this.
- Early Greeks of that time weren't strong enough or unified enough to field a massive army or fleet of that size.
- The terrain around Cornwall matches the accounts that speak of a lush, wet climate (rather than the arid, dry climate of Turkey)
- The number of rivers that ran thru and around Troy, match the number of rivers spoken about in the stories.
- The fact that the Celts needed tin for their bronze, which Cornwall was overly abundant in.
- Massive amounts of Celtic influence all around Cornwall that still exists today proves they were in fact there.
- Accounts of a "Brutus of Troy," a descendant of the Trojan hero "Æneas" and according to the Historia Regum Britanniae say he was the legendary founder and first king of Britain.
- In a borrow found at Trelowarren (which is in Cornwall), there are ancient monuments made of clay and stone, of Hector and Patroclus.

And there is a lot, lot more that I can’t remember.  Been awhile since I’ve read any of the books on that, but it was definitely interesting stuff.  They go on to talk about the differences between the seas that were crossed, and the accounts of the return home from Troy and how a return voyage from Cornwall matched the geography so much more, etc, etc.  And some interesting archeological findings in various places along the route.

But this is already turning into a “tldr” kinda thing so I’ll shut it down for now.

Im so necroquoting this post .
I lol'ed irl.
You know what, i've heard that King Arthur is Syrian not English legend.
His real name was Arif not Arthur there is a legend in Syria which is Emir Arif and his Scimitar stucked at rock in Aleppo and his djinn friend muhammed who helped Arif to reclaim his throne and unify mid-east...

For fucks sake there is an ancient city of troy in Çanakkale/Truva region.I've been there and its on UNESCO WORLD HERITAGE LIST yet you claim the legendary Troia was in Britannia and Oddyssey of Homer tells us story of celts in greek ? Greeks had no enough sources to build that army and fleet ? You know ALL states of GREECE united against Troy and ATTACKED together right ?
What do you guys use to get that high for fuckkidy fucks sake ?

[Bobthehero]

Same thing Turks use ;)

[Thucydides]

lulul hashish

[Aljo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u5ta4lPNukü
pre-trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8raYASyito
offical trailer

I would like hear some comments , movie will come in February 2012.

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3D

gotta watch it

[Cathaoir]

Tsk Tsk Tsk.
In order of relevance to cRPG

(Trust me, Books are better. Youll actually learn something too, but movies first)

1. Ironclad (2011) Story of one of my random supposed ancestors from England the Comyns,
Getting his ass handed too him by a bunch of mercenaries in a castle. Siege scene is awesome
2. Spartacus (T.V.) - If you dont know who spartacus is, just gtfo,
3. Centurion- only two battle scenes, Britain Vs. Picts, those two scenes are worth it. tactics out the ass, Romans destroyed.
4. VERCINGETORIX - is super far from cRPG, its in Roman era, during shield and sword, but its one of my fav movies. Originally french, its the story of the last stand of the Gauls, a bunch of epic battle scenes, and alot of good feeling. The speeches, the way he surrendered to Ceaser.



BOOKS ARE BETTER  (1 series, about 10 books, "the last kingdom")

!!!!! HOW COULD I FORGET!!!
MAIN KING IS RAGNAR, of the Norseman, or "Nords" ; )
SOUND FAMILIAR (warband)

1. reading "the last kingdom" now. just omg.
lore placed over history about the Danish invasion of england.

The way this guy describes the sword fights it makes my mind create them in slow-mo i love it.

Plus this dudes about as fucked up as me,
the main char has a little gf who licks the blood of the blade after she jams it into dudes balls under their shields in the wall when he swings high to make them raise the shield
(But thats one of the tactics i didnt even think of till now, relevant to cRPG, but more to turning the shielders back then having him raise)

Also, I love the fact he kills off half the books main chars in a hall-burning, cuz he cant go against history.
One of the main reasons I hate most books and movies, everyones gotta slowly die, blacks first.

[Draggon]

4. VERCINGETORIX - is super far from cRPG, its in Roman era, during shield and sword, but its one of my fav movies. Originally french, its the story of the last stand of the Gauls, a bunch of epic battle scenes, and alot of good feeling. The speeches, the way he surrendered to Ceaser.

Is that the one with Christopher Lambert and Max Von Sidow?

[Joker86]

It is.

[Oberyn]

That movie was a travesty.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0199481/reviews

[Angantyr]

In all ways..

[Cathaoir]

That movie was a travesty.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0199481/reviews

Different Perspectives.

People hated it becuase of how inaccurate it was,
Which is why I love it.

I despise people who are grotesquely obsessed with historical accuracy.
If I wanted to read about history,
Id read about history.

If I want to watch a movie,
I want it to be bards tale, full of slaughter, speeches, and myths.

People who expect to learn about 100 year conflicts in less then 60 minutes by moving pictures make me LMFAO

[Cathaoir]

Im so necroquoting this post .
I lol'ed irl.
You know what, i've heard that King Arthur is Syrian not English legend.
His real name was Arif not Arthur there is a legend in Syria which is Emir Arif and his Scimitar stucked at rock in Aleppo and his djinn friend muhammed who helped Arif to reclaim his throne and unify mid-east...

For fucks sake there is an ancient city of troy in Çanakkale/Truva region.I've been there and its on UNESCO WORLD HERITAGE LIST yet you claim the legendary Troia was in Britannia and Oddyssey of Homer tells us story of celts in greek ? Greeks had no enough sources to build that army and fleet ? You know ALL states of GREECE united against Troy and ATTACKED together right ?
What do you guys use to get that high for fuckkidy fucks sake ?

wow I never new that, That makes you think.
I wonder how many other bards tales were lost like that.

and also thinking,

if the Welsh didnt have King Arthur what did they have?
Because really they didnt have shit else going for them.

[Overdriven]

Different Perspectives.

People hated it becuase of how inaccurate it was,
Which is why I love it.

I despise people who are grotesquely obsessed with historical accuracy.
If I wanted to read about history,
Id read about history.

If I want to watch a movie,
I want it to be bards tale, full of slaughter, speeches, and myths.

People who expect to learn about 100 year conflicts in less then 60 minutes by moving pictures make me LMFAO

It's a historical movie, about a famous figure who existed in history. Yes it should be historically accurate...otherwise make up your own story.

It's the reason I hated Braveheart. In itself it's a good movie, but my god is it so full of shit, inaccuracy and just out right idiocy that it makes it hard to watch if you already know the history behind it.

Yes there has to be some degree of artistic license, but the problem comes when they start representing famous historical figures rather inaccurately, or the weapons and armour they use, or the reasons for a certain battle ect. Again coming back to Braveheart, that was designed to be anti-English in every way, to the point where the dropped historical accuracy completely.

Edit:

The depressing thing is that people who watch these movies will often assume that what is happening is fact, because they are deemed historical movies. You then get people believing things which are completely wrong because they have been influenced by it. If they were actually historically accurate, that wouldn't happen.