Shielders! 21/15 or 18/18? (POLL)

[Wiltzu]

Okey so I've been with this build:                                                                             And I might try this:
    Strength: 18                                                                                                            Strength: 21
    Agility: 18                                                                                                                Agility: 15
    Hit points: 63                                                                                                           Hit points: 70

    Skills to attributes: 2                                                                                                Skills to attributes: 2

    Ironflesh: 5                                                                                                               Ironflesh: 7
    Power Strike: 6                                                                                                          Power Strike: 7
    Shield: 6                                                                                                                   Shield: 5
    Athletics: 6                                                                                                                Athletics: 5
    Riding: 0                                                                                                                   Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0                                                                                                        Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0                                                                                                           Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0                                                                                                          Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 6                                                                                                      Weapon Master: 5

    One Handed: 154                                                                                                       One Handed: 146

My previous build gives me more shield points which keeps my shield whole, it also gives me more athletics which keeps me moving pretty well (i have pretty heavy armor so it might be important)
The other build gives me 7 more hitpoints which could be very useful.                                          I'm also gonna retire after hitting 31, then when i stop retiring i'll do 18/18 build and keep goin to 21/18

Here is my armor, shield and weapon:
Barbutte
Banded Armor
Scale Gauntlets
Rus Splinted Greaves
Heavy Warhammer
Thich Huscarl's Round Shield

[Xant]

24-15, brah.

[Mtemtko]

24-15, brah.

[Lansamur]

24-15, brah.

[Fluffy_Muffin]

24-15, brah.

[Ganner]

18
21

120 1h
100 Xbow

6 PS
7 Sh
5 Ath
5 WM

Primarily 1h with xbow mainly for support on low ranged teams and strat.

Gear consists of some middle range mail, open sallet, polished gaunts and cased greaves.  Preferred weapons include Elite scimi, Knobbed mace, and a heavy pick.  As for shield, i tend to use different shields for how the server is playing.

Strategy:  disperse the archers from whatever camp spot they have chosen for the map, and getting into the fight quickly to delay their first charge (usually by getting behind their lines and causing people to chase me) With this build i tend to kamakaze alot but i can usualy take out 1-2 before going down.

[MrShine]

Your poll is messed up, saying 21/18 as an option.

21/15 or 24/12 are my two favorite shielder builds.

[Wiltzu]

Fixed, sorry XD not good idea to do poll when you're falling sleep.. i made alot of mistakes XD but now it should be fine =)

[Tristan]

I'm voting for the 21/15.

7 if gives much survivabilty even more so than the extra added dam of 24.
Imo, you don't need the wpf, ath and shield skill of 15 agi  if you remove shields against axemen and have decent timing.
On the other hand I feel that at 6 ps I give to little damage.

[B3RS3RK]

18/18
Swiftness is very important as a Shielder, Footwork is a big part of what you need to stay alive.The more athletics you got the better Footwork you are able to do plus 6 Powerstrike is fairly decent already.

Also, 1 Shield skill more means some less damage to the shield which is also important to increase your survivability.I always went fine with 18/18, even without Ironflesh(I put Ironflesh in Riding).

[Xant]

I'm voting for the 21/15.

7 if gives much survivabilty even more so than the extra added dam of 24.

Well if you'd rather take 5 HP than 8% more damage..

[rustyspoon]

I'd say none of those. If you're using a warhammer you're going to need good athletics. Also, using a loomed huscarl you shouldn't be taking many hits if you're doing it right.

Try this build:

 Strength: 21
    Agility: 18
    Hit points: 56

    Skills to attributes: 8

    Ironflesh: 0
    Power Strike: 7
    Shield: 6
    Athletics: 6
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 4

    One Handed: 139

Alternatively you could put just 130 WPF in one handed and put 63 in poles to bring a war spear or awlpike with you for cav. With that armor and 130 WPF, you're fine.

[Matey]

12/24 or no balls 

[Bramd]

12/24 or no balls 

Signed.

[Slamz]

I'm 24/12 at the moment (or headed there -- retired and back up to level 28 now for 22/12...)

I'm going to play it out until the next retirement but I'm pretty sure I'm going 18/18 next time.  Biggest problem is that 12 agility just isn't enough for a shielder.  15 is marginal.  I think I'd like to have 6 shield skill for a proper "shielder".


My concept for 24/12 was that I could block people well enough until I got some backup and if they turned their back on me, I could give them a solid whack with 8 PS.  Basically "support role with punch".  4 shield skill is too brittle though.  I could go 24/15 if I dropped throwing and some IF but it's awfully amusing to plant an axe in the back of an archer that's trying to kite me.

I think 18/18 would be a much more balanced build and still leave me points to play around with if I want to pick up a little throwing again.  Could do 3 throwing and 3 IF and 6 everywhere else.  Or 1 IF and 5 throwing... really don't think dedicated shielders need IF as much as the tin cans, especially if you pick up throwing as well.