You guys do know that what we have as the "Chichak" hemets are from 17c. right?

[Herald_Hardrata]

It's really called a capeline helmet, which were commonly used by the hussars, (polish cavalry use them in Fire & sword FFS, how could you not realize this?). I know that chadz is against muskets and wants to stick to one historical period (pre muskets), so why the fuck are we adding morions and now these 17 century helmets to the game?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capeline

Do you guys really care about sticking to the time period? If you don't, then let's add some fucking Roman and Greek armor for fucks sake.

[Lt_Anders]

Just an FYI: Morion's  were predominatly used by the Spanish during the New World Conquests. This was actually late reniessance as the Arquebus hadn't supplanted the crossbow in mass usage, yet. In fact, the Conquistadors brought Crossbowmen with them when they attacked the Aztecs.

[SixThumbs]

I want to be able to cross dress again.

That is all.

[Herald_Hardrata]

Just an FYI: Morion's  were predominatly used by the Spanish during the New World Conquests. This was actually late renaissance as the Arquebus hadn't supplanted the crossbow in mass usage, yet. In fact, the Conquistadors brought Crossbowmen with them when they attacked the Aztecs.

My point is that by the 1400s gunpowder was being used on the European and Eastern battlefields. Navies were using cannons. The Ottomans were implementing it with their Jannisaries "as early as 1440".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_modern_warfare#Ottoman_Empire

Handguns were appearing on the battlefield (matchlock guns) in Europe as well in the 1400s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matchlock#History

 If you want to keep gunpowder out then the cut off should be before the 1400s, as this is the dawn of gunpowder weapons. 



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[Tristan]

Historical accuracy is not an argument for game balance.

-end thread.

[Socrates]

That's too bad, because adding new armor doesn't turn off balance unless it has ridiculous stats, but since the stats scale according to difficulty/weight/armor it doesn't really matter.

[Herald_Hardrata]

Historical accuracy is not an argument for game balance.

-end thread.

What are you even talking about?

If you're saying that all they care about is keeping gunpowder out because it'd be a pain to rebalance the game, ok, I get that. But then why don't they at least keep it historically accurate and not add a bunch of gun powder era armor?

And if we're just saying we don't give a shit about what era armor is from as long as it looks cool, why the fuck isn't there Roman and Greek armor yet? If you say, "it's not from the medieval era," I'm going to have to call bullshit because neither is a lot of this other armor.

[Swahili_Zulu_Mon]

Zulu Nation existed in 17th. century. Devs, Y U NO MAKE ZULU ARMORZ?

[Casimir]

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[Dexxtaa]

Fuck realism.

Fuck it.

Casimir, your link is broken as FUACK

[Casimir]

Dextaaa

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deal with it

[FRANK_THE_TANK]

+1 for more cool shit, I care not for your time periods and what not. I want to cut off a gladiators head with a samurai sword, while wearing full white kimono with those funny wooden shoes and those insane hats.

That is all, so end-a the transmition.

[Thucydides]

fuck time periods, LISTEN TO THE MASSES chadz

[Chen1201]

FUCK TIME

[Dede]

..the "Chichak" hemets are from 17c. right?

no

Do you actually read the links you post?

"The helmet had an oriental origin, being derived from the Ottoman Turkish 'chichak' (Turkish - çiçak) helmet. It was adopted by the Christian states of Europe in the early 17th century.[9][10] It saw widespread use during the Thirty Years War when it became known as the zischagge, a Germanisation of the original Turkish name.[11] Many of these European-made capelines were later imported during the English Civil War. Sometimes older helmets like the burgeonet or sallet were modified to resemble the lobster pot although these were less effective in the field."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capeline

This is the turkish Chichak:

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