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Reduce the Bec's swing damage by 2 and make it blunt and reduce speed by 2?

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Author Topic: [STATS] Bec de Corbin Swing damage from 34 pierce to 32 blunt, 93 to 91 speed  (Read 4999 times)

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Re: [STATS] Bec de Corbin Swing damage from 34 pierce to 32 blunt, 93 to 91 speed
« Reply #75 on: September 28, 2011, 01:18:51 pm »
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After having played both NA and EU (not just 'yeah, i topped XX scoreboard once'), i'd say that bec isn't a major issue, but is a tad too good against armor. The solution, in my opinion would be to either nerf pierce dmg slightly (would also nerf lolstabs etc.) or lower the bec swing dmg by 1-2 points or lower the bec speed by 1-2 points (dmg preferred).

The thing that I would LOVE to see would to have different damage types effective against different types of armor. For example if pierce was most effective against plate and less effective against other armor types.

That way, one weapon type wouldn't be super-effective against everything. It would also help with my undying hate towards xbows.  :D
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Re: [STATS] Bec de Corbin Swing damage from 34 pierce to 32 blunt, 93 to 91 speed
« Reply #76 on: September 28, 2011, 04:48:49 pm »
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The thing that I would LOVE to see would to have different damage types effective against different types of armor. For example if pierce was most effective against plate and less effective against other armor types.

That way, one weapon type wouldn't be super-effective against everything. It would also help with my undying hate towards xbows.  :D
Could be awesome, but idk if it's implementable.

So much lolz in this thread, yet this whole NA suggestion has been discussed and denied several times by the devs AND the community. Can't we just cut the crap? Get more agility if you want to best the bec, because if you are slow as hell, you will never best a good player.
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Re: [STATS] Bec de Corbin Swing damage from 34 pierce to 32 blunt, 93 to 91 speed
« Reply #77 on: September 28, 2011, 10:45:53 pm »
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So what I'm gathering from this thread so far is that an athletics build is a pretty much accepted counter to the bec. And heavy str builds are apparently super bad ass for every other kind of melee combat. So if you want to keep a str build and further nerf the bec, I can only assume you want all the pros without the cons.

If you want to be able to deal with the bec, go athletics. If you want to be a heavy hitter, go with PS. Trade off is a bish, ain't it?

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Re: [STATS] Bec de Corbin Swing damage from 34 pierce to 32 blunt, 93 to 91 speed
« Reply #78 on: September 28, 2011, 11:20:10 pm »
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So what I'm gathering from this thread so far is that an athletics build is a pretty much accepted counter to the bec. And heavy str builds are apparently super bad ass for every other kind of melee combat. So if you want to keep a str build and further nerf the bec, I can only assume you want all the pros without the cons.

If you want to be able to deal with the bec, go athletics. If you want to be a heavy hitter, go with PS. Trade off is a bish, ain't it?

range is still a far greater problem than the bec, i don't really care for it. It has characteristics that makes it ubitutous on the NA battlefield though, and the counter to it only works in a 1v1 scenario, which rarely happens unless you run off like a solo my old friend.

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No bonus against shield's hurt and even more with the new hit location system. I do not know much about the recent patch and have had to adjust my playing around with considerably. When fighting and i have someone with a shield raise near me on my sides or rear it hits their shield while i'm fighting someone in front of me. Guess what happens when my attack hits the shield to my side or rear? the person in front gets a free attack in. It's been never like almost ever patch, has terrible range and is probably one of the best weapons to block against. By no means is it a dueling weapon or  front line weapon but a finisher weapon.  My success with the weapon shouldn't be an example of how this weapon works. I've spend a long time perfecting a build to use with this weapon and fits my style of play.

I do not use the weapon in strat guess why
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Well I would like it if bec de corbin lost 2 speed because it is freaky fast and due to the shortage and the speed of the weapon it's hard to see people switching swingside.
Sometimes it seems the animation is missing and the weapon is just on the other side suddenly :/   And I'm not the only one having that feeling.

But damage is fine and should stay as pierce