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Reduce the Bec's swing damage by 2 and make it blunt and reduce speed by 2?

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Author Topic: [STATS] Bec de Corbin Swing damage from 34 pierce to 32 blunt, 93 to 91 speed  (Read 5014 times)

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Current:
Speed: 93
Thrust: 26 pierce
Swing: 34 pierce

New:
Speed: 91
Thrust: 26 pierce
Swing: 32 blunt

Basically the swing and stab damages should be closer as its designed as a versatile weapon.  Also, the hammer is part of the weapon making swings to be blunt, but it also does too much damage for its use of blunt and pierce damage and so the swing damage should be reduced by 2.  lastly, its one of the most damaging weapons in the game and shouldn't also be one of the faster polearms to boot, for balance it should be 91 speed.  This will put it closer to on par with the English bill, which is a longer weapon but the tradeoff for that length is only 2 attack directions.  The bec is one of the few high-damaging polearms that has 4 attack directions and needs some balancing. 
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The new swing values certainly make sense, and a -2 speed probably won't hurt it too much at all.  Also, isn't blunt more effective at penetrating armor soak?

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The Bec de corbin "beak" or "fluke" (the big spike on the right hand side) was usally the first thing used when fighting as quite obivously the big spike could tear threw armour and do serious damage! so there is no point in it having blunt damage but if you wanted to get technical it should have a pierce and blunt swing and a pierce thrust.
Also the Bec de corbin in crpg is actually the Lucerne hammer the difference being the Lucerne hammer is longer and has 4 prongs instead of a hammer so the Bec de corbin "Lucerne hammer" that is currently in crpg is doing the correct type of damage as the the left and right swing from the Lucerne hammer would do pierce when compared to the Bec de corbin which would do pierce and blunt

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The intended nerf dosent make much sense either..


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Hmm, you guys know that Bec had 36 pierce on swing just two weeks ago? :?

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I always liked it more back when it was a long warhammer. Make it a hammer again!

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give it back 42 blunt!!! :mrgreen:

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Voted no, bec in my opinion isn't that OP, mainly because its range is incredibly short.

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Voted no, bec in my opinion isn't that OP, mainly because its range is incredibly short.

And it has shittiest feints ever, any fool can read bec feints unlike those of GLA or poleaxes...

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Re: [STATS] Bec de Corbin Swing damage from 34 pierce to 32 blunt, 93 to 91 speed
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2011, 07:45:24 pm »
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Wait, you can feint with a bec?

Oh... and here all that time I thought people were just making dance moves with it!
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Re: [STATS] Bec de Corbin Swing damage from 34 pierce to 32 blunt, 93 to 91 speed
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2011, 12:01:36 am »
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Would've voted yes, but I don't feel making it blunt damage is necessary or proper.
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Re: [STATS] Bec de Corbin Swing damage from 34 pierce to 32 blunt, 93 to 91 speed
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2011, 06:40:43 am »
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Wow, whata  surprise - all Eu saying no to nerfing bec, why its never changed even though highly imbalanced and over-used in NA.  If you are not playing on a server with a bunch of backpedaling, s-key hero, long polearm users, the bec is extremely effective and deadly more than most polearms.  People that actually block and counter-strike rather than backpedal to fight see this all the time.
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Re: [STATS] Bec de Corbin Swing damage from 34 pierce to 32 blunt, 93 to 91 speed
« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2011, 07:20:02 am »
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Re: [STATS] Bec de Corbin Swing damage from 34 pierce to 32 blunt, 93 to 91 speed
« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2011, 11:17:47 am »
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Back to the point that its actually a Lucerne hammer and makes no sense to change it to blunt damage...
And yet again kesh starting the na vs eu argument now its about usage of different weapons.. really kesh you should just give it a rest the usage will be the same on eu and na servers
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