[STATS] change thrust damage for Katana from 16 to 22

[Dehitay]

It's been underpowered for a long time now and chadz was kind enough to give us a written out way of asking for a buff.

EDIT: The hell?! I swear I had put this in the balance sub-forum! Could a mod move this there please?

[Torp]

i voted yes - but in it should either be little less than 22 thrust or nerfed cut in order to balance it with other swords (longsword, HBS)

[JiblyjibjibJiblet]

No no and no.
I play a ninja with a katana and NO. it doesnt need a buff.
There is a reason it has low thrust dmg. 101 speed 37 cut, insanely fast, insanely high dmg for what it is. equal to greatsword damage?
And another point. if you want realism at all, the blade isnt designed for a thrusting, its designed for cutting...
if your thrusting with the katana ditch it and get a longsword. your using it WRONG

[Dehitay]

The longsword has 23 pierce trust; the great sword has 26 pierce thrust. I chose 22 because that's the smallest thrust for all the high end swords except the current katana stats. Actually, out of all the thrustable swords, only the katana and bastard sword have less than 22 pierce thrust.

And to be honest, I could care less about realism in contrast with balance, but if you want to make that a point of argument, nearly every other sword would be as valid as the katana at stabbing. A double edge sword might be able to split open a wound two ways, but the katana could just as easily expand in one direction. I don't know much about these high end swords, but it seems unlikely that most of their real life counterparts were actually made for thrusting any more than the katana was.

[Huey Newton]

katana just got buffed


no

[Xant]

katana just got buffed


no

SEE THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS YOU GIVE IN A LITTLE AND SUDDENLY THEY WANT MORE BUFFS MORE BUFFS

[Huey Newton]

SEE THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS YOU GIVE IN A LITTLE AND SUDDENLY THEY WANT MORE BUFFS MORE BUFFS

iknorite

katana needs crushthrough

[Bulzur]

The longsword has 23 pierce trust; the great sword has 26 pierce thrust. I chose 22 because that's the smallest thrust for all the high end swords except the current katana stats. Actually, out of all the thrustable swords, only the katana and bastard sword have less than 22 pierce thrust.

And to be honest, I could care less about realism in contrast with balance, but if you want to make that a point of argument, nearly every other sword would be as valid as the katana at stabbing. A double edge sword might be able to split open a wound two ways, but the katana could just as easily expand in one direction. I don't know much about these high end swords, but it seems unlikely that most of their real life counterparts were actually made for thrusting any more than the katana was.

Ingame balance more important than realism.
Katana has shitty thrust, cause it has good slash and awesome speed.

[HarunYahya]

TBH Katana needs to be nerfed.
Nearly 40 cut damage is too high.
Show historical facts ?
Katana was designed to kill samurais who wear light lamellar armours not to kill plated knights.Therefore you shouldn't be able to deal shitloads of damage on a european fighter.
Since you ninja wannabees whined like hell they buffed swing damage now enjoy it before they take it away.

[Kafein]

iknorite

katana needs crushthrough

Katana need to be couchable.

[Teeth]

When the katana still had 35c and 16p. My view of a buff was making the stab 19p/20p. Now that it has 37c thats not necesarry anymore. Let alone 22p, be realistic mate.

[pratolli]

No buff to thrust, the katana was made to slash, not to thrust. 16 is more than enough, and then it just got buffed, now I think that it's perfect. (?)

[Leshma]

Katana, katana, katana... always about damn katana...

What about that poor sob of a sword called nodachi?

If Katana has 16p stab Nodachi deserves 12p at least.

[Ninja_Khorin]

I voted no. Simply becuase 22p on a katana is batshit crazy. Maybe a +1 or +2 pierce but not +6. Seems like a troll topic to me.

And yes. Nodachi's turn for some love.

EDIT: Also, to both Dehitay and koyama, historical realism is a horrible thing to base game balance on.

[Kafein]

The No-Dachi overhead swing inflicts blockstun (the blocker is stunned and forced to block again) quite often.