longbow now....

[Rendar1970]

So i just noticed that with the new patch longbow is back to cut damage.  Only way to have pierce is with bodkin arrows (so any bow can be pierce now).  So is longbow basically pointless? I lose 9 speed to for +2 cut over Rus bow now. 

Longbow is looking pretty sad. 

Interested to see how pierce damage hornbows perform though.

[Tears of Destiny]

The longbow used to be this way, slightly more damage for massive penalties elswhere. When they made it so blatently better, it was silly just how many people were using it and how rare the other bows became.

[Rendar1970]

I mostly play siege so maybe thats the difference,

But hornbows outnumbered longbows 3 to 1 atleast.  Longbow was great because of the pierce damage, but it was super slow.

Tbh i think this new patch will buff archery.  Cause now with super accurate, much faster horn bows being able to be pierce damage, why use a longbow?  I can get 2, sometimes 3 arrows on someone with a hornbow over my longbow, so hornbow will do even better.

Im not crying, just interesting to see how this pans out.  I sit at PD7 and a hornbow, rus bow, and longbow.  So im good either way.

[ToxicKilla]

The longbow used to be this way, slightly more damage for massive penalties elswhere. When they made it so blatently better, it was silly just how many people were using it and how rare the other bows became.

So now longbows need to be super rare?

[Tears of Destiny]

So now longbows need to be super rare?

It would not be the first time that the devs have nerfed something because they felt it was over used.

[Digglez]

stupid change IMO.  Longbow was the only real bow that had the power to actually force an arrow thru plate armor. Letting some rinkedink horn bow to penetrate plate makes no sense.

[Bobthehero]

stupid change IMO.  Longbow was the only real bow that had the power to actually force an arrow thru plate armor

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[Lt_Anders]

stupid change IMO.  Longbow was the only real bow that had the power to actually force an arrow thru plate armor. Letting some rinkedink horn bow to penetrate plate makes no sense.

Tell that to the Mongols(Golden Horde at that time) who screwed up Europe pretty badly.

[Bobthehero]

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No plate armor avaible when the mongol were invading

[Tears of Destiny]

No plate armor avaible when the mongol were invading

And are we forgetting how long they lasted when they settled, before the Russians managed to consolidate and kicked them out? Those were not peaceful times either during the long occupation.

[Rendar1970]

Do bows have a higher chance of breaking now?

I thought it was based off WPF, im sitting at about 150.  Bow used to break pretty random, and kept me around the same amount of gold.

Since patch it seems to break every other tick.  Rus bow is a gold sink to use now.  Not sure if im just really unlucky or what.  But in game (not that you can believe them) everyone said bows are set to break faster.

[Zekerage]

I Still prefer my MW Longbow over my MW Horn. I still feel that the damage gap is worth it, and I still Lawl when I'm topping the scoreboards while all the other horn bow users are BOWING TO MY MIGHT! har har har!

[ShinySpoons]

You should be comparing Longbow killing potential to Rus bow. Horn bows fill more of a support niche than the longbow does.

[Aseldo]

You should be comparing Longbow killing potential to Rus bow. Horn bows fill more of a support niche than the longbow does.

Now that Horn Bow can do Pierce damage that's not the case anymore.

[Uumdi]

If you look though, the Rus and the Horn is a trade, 4 damage for 4 speed.  As it stands, the Longbow is a trade, 9 speed for 2 damage.  Longbow should either be slightly more devastating, or slightly faster maybe.  Longbow isn't bad by any means, but statistically, Rus seems really superior as a damage dealer, and Horn the best anti-archer / support.

I think the projectile update is awesome though.  Ammunition is what you're firing, it only makes sense that it would alter the damage, and adds more versatility to your weapon.  I just feel bad for the longbow: it wasn't nerfed by any means; everything else just got a really nice buff.

A suggestion - I want to see suction cup NERF arrows to stick on people for no damage, and I want to see practice arrows with -10 or -15 blunt damage.