Unbalanced weapons?

[kono yaro!]

I don't see the point. I've been playing with an unbalanced weapon (GLB) for almost a gen now and I can usually stand my own even in a 1 vs 1 against a balanced weapon (which is kind of difficult imo). However, the disadvantages greatly outweigh the advantages of this weapon, so why would anyone use a weapon which simply isn't up to par compared to the rest?

It's not even good in battle situations where it's supposed to shine (many vs many). So again, why use this weapon? The poleaxe costs only ~1k more and is infinitely better, despite its lower reach and damage. Even the GLB's little brother is better. It has 1 point less damage and slightly less reach but it isn't unbalanced and it is also faster AND a lot cheaper!


Long Bardiche

weapon length: 140
weight: 3.5 (weight doesn't matter, since block stun is very random and doesn't reliably work against anything other than 1h weapons)
difficulty: 17
speed rating: 89
thrust damage: 18 pierce
swing damage: 45 cut One less damage compared to GLB
slots: 2
cost: 6,934
Can't use on horseback
Balanced
Bonus against Shield

Great Long Bardiche

weapon length: 155
weight: 3.8
difficulty: 18
speed rating: 87
thrust damage: 18 pierce
swing damage: 46 cut (this barely qualifies for a green font color, but i'm including it just to be fair)
slots: 2
cost: 13,705
Can't use on horseback
Unbalanced
Bonus against Shield

Opinions?

[Thucydides]

you're right, GLB is pretty lame compared to the Long B, which in turn is better than the GLA because of reach and pierce thrust.

However, you just gotta play smart and work your weapon stun/manual block/chambering. You shouldn't be feinting with polearms anyways

[Phew]

Yes, the non-crushthrough unbalanced weapons need a buff to compensate for their shortcomings. I'd like to see a chance for a stagger effect when blocking an unbalanced weapon, based on weight ratio between the unbalanced weapon and the blocking weapon/shield. Wouldn't change the fact that dueling with an unbalanced weapon is nearly impossible, but would further improve support capabilities (stagger so teammates can get a hit).

Don't nerf the Long Bardiche, it's just a poleaxe that trades thrust damage for swing damage. Yeah, its price is good, but the other cheap polearms suck, so throw us pole users a bone. Great Long Axe needs to be buffed also, it should hit harder than the Long Bardiche given its short length.

[Thucydides]

Yes, the non-crushthrough unbalanced weapons need a buff to compensate for their shortcomings. I'd like to see a chance for a stagger effect when blocking an unbalanced weapon, based on weight ratio between the unbalanced weapon and the blocking weapon/shield. Wouldn't change the fact that dueling with an unbalanced weapon is nearly impossible, but would further improve support capabilities (stagger so teammates can get a hit).

Don't nerf the Long Bardiche, it's just a poleaxe that trades thrust damage for swing damage. Yeah, its price is good, but the other cheap polearms suck, so throw us pole users a bone. Great Long Axe needs to be buffed also, it should hit harder than the Long Bardiche given its short length.

This would piss off a lot of people, there is serious hate towards the GLA in the NA community.

[Phew]

I don't know why the GLA would be whine-worthy. Even with the recent -2 dmg nerf, the Bec is still more damaging and faster, and nearly the same length.

I'd take some grizzled Norsemen wielding Great Long Axes on the battlefield over the current crop of plated Bec wielders any day. The GLA is by far, the most badass-looking weapon, It just has awful stats right now compared to the Long Bardiche, Long Axe, Morningstar, etc.

I wish 2H and Pole had the same variety of well-balanced weapons that we see in 1H. As it stands now, half the poles are just flat inferior compared to other options.

[Thucydides]

I don't know why the GLA would be whine-worthy. Even with the recent -2 dmg nerf, the Bec is still more damaging and faster, and nearly the same length.

I'd take some grizzled Norsemen wielding Great Long Axes on the battlefield over the current crop of plated Bec wielders any day. The GLA is by far, the most badass-looking weapon, It just has awful stats right now compared to the Long Bardiche, Long Axe, Morningstar, etc.

I wish 2H and Pole had the same variety of well-balanced weapons that we see in 1H. As it stands now, half the poles are just flat inferior compared to other options.

its because the inferior poles are either 1 hitter quitters or overpriced dueling poles. Unfortunately, the Armor buff removed the only good reason to use the GLB and GLA. Why use the GLB when theres a glaive? Why use a GLA when theres a bec? GLB and GLAs rarely oneshot anymore, and you are at a serious disadvantage when fighting against people of equal skill because its so easy to block.

I get by using the GLA because i am good at it, but no one really has a clue how to use the GLA on NA. You gotta develop an aggressive attack style while using a reflex blocking style in order to get any kills on good blockers with a GLA, which is something that comes with practice. Playing conservative with the GLA will just lead to a block battle where your offensive capabilities will be severely hapmpered because of the obvious attack animations and only 3 1/2 attack directions