With Fire And Sword is coming. New cRPG equipment?

[Poetrydog]

Is there any huge difference between warband and fire and sword? Are city walls destructible? I dont give a crap about new items, I want new in game mechanics.

This preview has some great info on it: http://pc.ign.com/articles/114/1145516p1.html

[Whitehead]

I say guns should be added, if you have ever played mount and musket battalion mod you will see that a flintlock takes a while to reload in battle when you need to get more shots off. even if you think that would be too much, you could even add a matchlock which takes even longer than a flintlock to prepare to fire. I do not think that this would change the gameplay very much other than hearing loud booms going off every so often.

[CtrlAltDe1337]

No more Renaissance gear please, we already have too much...if chadz wanted to make a separate WF&S cRPG, that might be cool though.

[Jacko]

I don't see how this could blend with regular o'l cRPG. A separate WF&S-cRPG would be the way to go. More guns, just not in cRPG.

[Armbrust_Schtze]

if you have ever played mount and musket battalion mod you will see that a flintlock takes a while to reload

DIDNT F0CKING NOT READ THE OTHER POSTS?! THERE WILL BE NO MATCHLOCKS OR PISTOLS IN CRPG BECAUSE ITS SET IN THE MIDDLE AGS GOD DAMN IT! 

[FICO]

DIDNT F0CKING NOT READ THE OTHER POSTS?! THERE WILL BE NO MATCHLOCKS OR PISTOLS IN CRPG BECAUSE ITS SET IN THE MIDDLE AGS GOD DAMN IT! 

ok than arquebuses

[Armbrust_Schtze]

ARQUEBUSES NOT TO THEY BELONG TO THE EARLY 16th CENTURY!! AHHHHR!!  handguns men, they used primitiv handguns in middle ages men! 

^^

[FICO]

ARQUEBUSES NOT TO THEY BELONG TO THE EARLY 16th CENTURY!! AHHHHR!!  handguns men, they used primitiv handguns in middle ages men! 

^^

XV. ct., and it appeared at the end of XIV. ct. in germany. and crpg uses arms & armours from IX. to XVI. ct. 

city of šibenik, according to one document from mid. XV. ct. held 13 arquebuses for defending city (here were not included arquebuses of mercenaries and personal citizens') (the rest of it included, if anyone interested:

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45 cannons ranging from 106 libres to 460 (50,56-219,41 kg) (one was bronze), 43 bases for bigger guns, 98 iron forks for handguns, 170 wooden plugs filled with powder (it made reloading faster - put in the plug, cannonball and fire), 245 libres of sulfur and 423 libres of saltpeter for powder, 299 stone cannonbals, one crate of rockets (!?), 145 bullets for arquebuse, 1 stambachina (possibly scorpion, big siege crossbow or something similar, because it said that it lacked string and they had 445 big bolts for it), 59 light crossbows (65 crates of bolts and 442 bolts) and 97 heavy crossbows (with winding mechanism)(74 crates with bolts) and materials for making 95 more of them, 77 bows (+95 unfinished ones) and 54 composite bows and 3000 arrows (100 x 30 arrows), 88 spears in bad state ("lanza da pe). in 1439. year garrison got from venice 42 "lanza da posta" (guard spear?), 48 halfspears and 120 iron tips for different polearms, 100 darts and 100 tips for more darts. garrison also had 39 shields (some were in bad state), 10 helmets, 42 brigantins and one breastplate armor (most of them was in bad state), 2 pairs of heavy arm armour. that all was what garrison had (as we see more or less) ready. they also had equipment for galley sailors and soldiers, but i didn't write that here. city also garrisoned mercenaries with their own equipment and citizens also had their own weapons. if interested i can give you equipment of merc. from tarvisio named mihovil and one citizen, juraj kamenarić (who sported firearm)

[Armbrust_Schtze]

QUIET PEASANT! ..crpg is set in middle ages i dont accept any renessaince or 17th century stuff!!

[Armbrust_Schtze]

(hadguns/harquebuses) yes - (muskets/arquebuses) NOT

[FICO]

(hadguns/harquebuses) yes - (muskets/arquebuses) NOT

harquebuses = arquebuses

[Armbrust_Schtze]

no i guess not LoL

harquebus is the medieval version deployd with a hook, the arquebus is a musket...well maybe heres a translation misstake i come from germany. try to google "hakenbüchse" and then "arquebuse" the first one is the medieval handgun i ment the second one is the renessaince musket u want in the game..

[FICO]

no i guess not LoL

harquebus is the medieval version deployd with a hook, the arquebus is a musket...well maybe heres a translation misstake i come from germany. try to google "hakenbüchse" and then "arquebuse" the first one is the medieval handgun i ment the second one is the renessaince musket u want in the game..

lost in translation
haken - hook + buechse - gun
it sounds like harquebuse. i think you ment handgun
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have 2 go. edit later wife nagging

edit:
we have to ask some native english speaker (who also knows english  ) if there is difference between harquebus und arquebus or it's just a spelling version.
i am OK with slow-loading-no-firing-mechanism-little-hand-operated-cannon and early versions of arquebuse (early renaissance is somewhere still medieval) but not OK with arquebuse with, for example, "s" shaped firing "mechanism"

[Formless]

Guns would not change Jack, simply make them comparable to crossbows in damage and reload time and problem solved.  People would still get to use guns but they would not change Crpg gameplay.   

[CtrlAltDe1337]

lost in translation
haken - hook + buechse - gun
it sounds like harquebuse. i think you ment handgun
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have 2 go. edit later wife nagging

edit:
we have to ask some native english speaker (who also knows english  ) if there is difference between harquebus und arquebus or it's just a spelling version.
i am OK with slow-loading-no-firing-mechanism-little-hand-operated-cannon and early versions of arquebuse (early renaissance is somewhere still medieval) but not OK with arquebuse with, for example, "s" shaped firing "mechanism"

I believe in English these are just called Hand Cannons.  An Arquebus is this:

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Hand cannon pic for reference:

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