Katanas...

[Thtb]

Anyone else feels like they are the most dominating weapon? Most players tend to use them (in b4 weeaboos) due to there low price, high speed and easy spam I'd asume... are there any intention to return towards a more balanced selection of weapons. If you desire so, I'll take some screenshots and paint red circles around the katanas, but you all do play the game and anyone without heavy bias should be able to see my point.

How do you deal with spamtana?

[Xant]

Low price? Wut? Katanas are ok, at least when not heirloomed (masterwork is pretty fast.. though personally I don't have a problem with it)... the range is pretty shortish too.

[Ninja_Totoro]

If youve ever played for more than 10 minutes you would know that spamming is an illusion for noobs to hide behind.

Anyone with any level of self control can easily control and destroy a "spammer".

Oh and, Katanas are nowhere near long enough to be spammed succesfully, theres to much glancing and bounceback.

[Babelfish]

How do you deal with spamtana?

Move your mouse to a direction, press RMB...?

[Kaelaen]

Seems to me more people use them not because they are inherently superior, but because it goes with their outfit or looks cool in their opinion.  Also, what Babelfish said.

[Ninja_Khorin]

Longsword has 1 more swing damage, 7 more pierce damage, 11 longer range and a secondary mode and 4 less speed and costs 3000 gold less.

I use it for style.

[Babelfish]

Longsword has 1 more swing damage, 7 more pierce damage, 11 longer range and a secondary mode and 4 less speed and costs 3000 gold less.

I use it for style.

+1

Was thinking about pointing out that to him myself, but i feared it would fall on deaf ears :/

[Gorath]

Man Cleaver > Katana

Nothing says RAGE like an unbalanced, slow, heavy slag of steel with no lolstab capability.  /manfist

[Stormcrow]

Compare bastard sword and Katana

Bastard Sword
Price 3086
weight 1.8
requirement 9
spd rtng 99
weapon length 101
swing damage 35, cut
thrust damage 23 pierce

Katana
Price 8212
weight 1.25
requirement 9
spd rtng 102
weapon length 95
swing damage 35, cut
thrust damage 18 pierce

Bastard sword has +5 length, +5 thrust and is 5000 gold cheaper than katana. Bastard sword is in my opinion the better sword

[Ninja_Totoro]

The reason people hate on the katana is because they think the weapon is op, whereas infact the person wielding is normally a ninja, who are generally good duelers.

Some people just cant admit that their betters beat them.

[Rheinhardt]

I could stand all Japanese crap being removed from the mod entirely, right down to the ninja clothes.

[Ninja_Khorin]

Also, ninjas have high agi builds.  Which plays a bigger role in our fast swings than the weapon speed.
Reinhardt, there are no ninja clothes.

[Armpit_Sweat]

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Compare bastard sword and Katana

Bastard Sword
Price 3086
weight 1.8
requirement 9
spd rtng 99
weapon length 101
swing damage 35, cut
thrust damage 23 pierce

Katana
Price 8212
weight 1.25
requirement 9
spd rtng 102
weapon length 95
swing damage 35, cut
thrust damage 18 pierce

Bastard sword has +5 length, +5 thrust and is 5000 gold cheaper than katana. Bastard sword is in my opinion the better sword

Its ALL about the speed. I use a Heavy Bastard sword, but I might change back to "normal" Bastard sword, when i get 5-6 PS.
If you make an agility build, range is not an issue. It actually makes more problems, then it does good for agility build. I just need to block the first strike, and then I am in the range forever. ( in a typical situation that is )

Katana is a perfect duel weapon, so if you feel slow against it - mostly it is because of you low WPP build. I believe most ninjas have over 21 Agility. In the same sense you can not complain about Hunting Bow being faster then Long Bow, 1 vs 1 Hunting bowman will destroy a Longbowman, if they both have equal "aiming skill".

That is from my personal experience though, I am not a good player, just played a lot... I would use a sword with Katanas speed any time, but its Japanese looks are not for me, hehe. Spiked Mace has 100 speed, but it is just way too ugly...

[Ninja_Khorin]

Ninjas tend to have minimum 24 agility.
I'm a 24 agi 15 str, but I know many who have 27/12

[Leiknir]

Stop trying to balance everything 1:1, the usual katana wielder* gets killed pretty easy by ranged, this ranged guy gets killed by some sneaky cav, and that sneaky cav dies to you. Circle of balance, learn what you can destroy and avoid the rest.

* those high agi spamming ninjas, without high agi the katanas speed alone is not that awesome