Abuse on NA Official LLJK server

[Dan lol]

guys don't hate native everyone knows he's off the reservation

GEDDIT

[Kenji]

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I agree with some of the earlier posts about the admins. Most of them don't really do much about trolling, leeching or just don't do anything at all. I don't know if there just brand new admins, or are they scared of there powers. But yet they don't seem to do much about anything even if you say something in admin chat. I've been in the battle severs many times because i like to play there but, its sad to see so many people braking the rules and yet there geting away with it, or they are just warned and then  they keep doing it. Im not saying that all the admins are useless or anything, im just trying to say that some of  them need to do there job better. Also there been some times I've been in the sever and there are good admins on that know how to do the job done correctly and things actually seem normal for the time they are there.

This is just a small list of things I've seen when in the sever. (Trolling,Leeching,voice spam, TKing/Team wounding (FF))

Hopefully things will get better over time.

I must admit, this described what I have done as an admin over the past month. Other competent admins such as Tears, Earthdforce, and Poophammer have had much more experience on administration than I did and are well chosen for the job. Most of the time I did not know whether to just warn or ban, as too often the rulebreakers tread the lines and if I responded to every single one of them, it is rather in contradiction of what I believed in after my 2 years of obligatory military service as a drill instructor in the Republic of China Navy.

There is tolerance to allow the mistakes to be reflected and contemplated upon, yet some exploit this 'weakness' of mine and is perceived as what you described, "Most of [admins] don't really do much about trolling, leeching or just don't do anything at all"

During my two years as a drill instructor, I was told not to engage the private recruits with doubts on their 'problems' or 'issues': By that, I mean, don't call a player a troll just because I think so, but I need solid evidence and witnesses before I can enforce anything.

With that in mind, you can see that I won't be doing great on this simply because there are far too many gray areas in administration (But at some point it actually make things easier..?)

I will continue to learn, however, and hopefully before I am honorably/dishonorably discharged of my admin status, I will leave a good or at least fair impression of Official NA administration to the playerbase.

Humbly yours,
Gear

[Classical]

Yay!

Also to acknowledge some points here, I see all to often administrators on the North American servers allow faction members of their fellow faction slip by without so much as a warning, this is unacceptable. For every faction, player, and admin, the rules must be enforced, no matter the affiliation. I'm not saying turn the server into a horrible kickfest and ruin a rather enjoyable time for a large crowd of people, but you do have to acknowledge that the same rules that apply to the general server populous, apply to your faction buddies.

Bias in administration when it comes to factions and friends is a major problem that I've noticed on the server, apart from other minor problems that can be dealt with rather easily.

To be clear, so far I've seen almost every faction administrator do this, minus a couple, start banning your faction bros, you fucks!

On a positive note, be happy that we've progressed to issues of neutrality within administration topics such as this, rather than "Another mass ban on Ecko's servers, well fuck".

[Gorath]

start banning your faction bros, you fucks!

Agreed.  The clan favortism/bias is something I've always detested.  To the point of leaving a clan over it.

[The_Angle]

You must remain emotionless at all times, like a robot

Exactly. Your job is to lay down the rules with fair judgement, emotions have a tendency to smear ones judgement I'm afraid. As it is impossible to completely get rid of emotion, the person in Authority has to discipline himself, which is also something you'll never ever find, thats why Cops suck.

[Kalam]

There is tolerance to allow the mistakes to be reflected and contemplated upon, yet some exploit this 'weakness' of mine and is perceived as what you described, "Most of [admins] don't really do much about trolling, leeching or just don't do anything at all"

During my two years as a drill instructor, I was told not to engage the private recruits with doubts on their 'problems' or 'issues': By that, I mean, don't call a player a troll just because I think so, but I need solid evidence and witnesses before I can enforce anything.

That's pretty much it. I need to go into spectator and see the violation with my own eyes before I even warn the perpetrator.

[Slamz]

Voice spamming you can disable yourself by pressing Q-M-V in game, and don't give me any shit about not being able to communicate with the rest of your team (You don't work with the rest of your team anyways)

You're missing the point.

You have to ask yourself whether allowing one douchebag to spam voice chat for 10 minutes straight is really worth the potential loss of new players, as they log into the game for the first time, see rampant spamming and decide the mod probably has no admins and isn't worth looking into any further.

There's just no good reason to allow it, and several good reasons to prevent it.


In a perfect world, the game would let us voice-mute individuals or else have an automatic spam blocker but until then, it needs to be done by admins.

[Shadowren]

Strange, I have been playing in the Officials for the past couple of hours and I have not seen a single incident go unnoticed... I also find it interesting that so far NE and former NE people are complaining for the most part, sorry that you guys feel this way.

Why are you even bring the (NE)  up? It doesn't matter from where i come from. I could be part of LLJK, Fallen, or even BRD and i would still say the same thing.I have been seeing alot of rule braking lately. But still the point in this thread is that certain Admins need to step up there game that's all im saying.

Bias in administration when it comes to factions and friends is a major problem that I've noticed on the server, apart from other minor problems that can be dealt with rather easily.

I have also seen alot of this above. I dont know about any other admins but i treat every one the same even my own Faction/Friends. If your Trolling then you get muted,If your Tking then you get kick and so on. But it is something that can be dealt with easily by just doing your job as an admin.

[Rikthor]

Why are you even bring the (NE)  up? It doesn't matter from where i come from. I could be part of LLJK, Fallen, or even BRD and i would still say the same thing.I have been seeing alot of rule braking lately. But still the point in this thread is that certain Admins need to step up there game that's all im saying.

Tears brought up NE since most of the people posting complaints about the official servers are from ATS, the NE main clan. A clan that has a dubious history of trying to troll and stop the official servers since it took power from high lord Ecko.

I have also seen alot of this above. I dont know about any other admins but i treat every one the same even my own Faction/Friends. If your Trolling then you get muted,If your Tking then you get kick and so on. But it is something that can be dealt with easily by just doing your job as an admin.

This is an issue on most servers with most admins to varying degrees.  Human nature to let friends slide a bit more, not saying it is the right thing. Admins should treat their clan mates like anyone other person but again almost every server will have this issue. That can also be confused with the different strictness of admins so it might not necessarily be them letting their clan slide. Some admins are very strict, down to the letter while others tend to be a bit more relaxed. The whole QMV debate is a good example. Kenji/Gearhardt is a pretty strict admin compared to say Smoothrich but both do fairly good jobs, just different styles.

[Ecko]

bah. For every happy person in crpg, there are at least 2 people equally unhappy. Its a natural law.

[Cheap_Shot]

bah. For every happy person in crpg, there are at least 2 people equally unhappy. Its a natural law.

It helps if you don't tell people to be unhappy out of spite, but yes. The way it is.

[Gorath]

I just want to know why it causes people to rage so hard.

Because it's the same thing as trying to play any other type of game with and against people and having some fuckhat screaming stupid shit at you like a retard.  It's goddamned annoying.  IRL annoying fucks get punched in the goddamned mouth.  But nooooooooooo, this is the internet where the whole POINT is to be the most annoying piece of shit fuckstick in the world to everyone around you.  This is seen as cool and funny.  Applause worthy by all the other flaming shitbags polluting up the world that congregate on the interwebs.

[Panoply]

Bias in administration when it comes to factions and friends is a major problem that I've noticed on the server

To be clear, so far I've seen almost every faction administrator do this

Fuck you! I have no faction and I have no friends!

Any time someone starts to get close to me... reaches out... says, "Hey man, you don't have to do this alone"...

I BAN THEY ASS! BITCHES!

[Classical]

RIGHT ON SISTA!

[Tears of Destiny]

RIGHT ON SISTA BRUTHA!