Strategus wipe - new features - vote for your continent!

[DesDope]

From all the whining and bitching I gather chadz ruined the mod - again?

As for trading issues: What is the problem to trade between NA and EU territory? I keep reading things like the coastal towns are too close to each other in NA territory while the EU has nicely spread coastal towns. So? Trade with whoever you want to, you are not restricted to stick with towns in your own territory ...

It is great to see people crying about every single change each and every time. Has been like this for years and I will enjoy it for the remainder of my life because it beats crappy TV shows. Now go on flinging poop at each other and at chadz, because - obviously - this time he ruined the mod for good and killed the game.

[Bjarky]

exactly, finally we will be able to trade some goods in the whole map, it's gonna be interesting to test out the possibilities 

[okiN]

As for trading issues: What is the problem to trade between NA and EU territory? I keep reading things like the coastal towns are too close to each other in NA territory while the EU has nicely spread coastal towns. So? Trade with whoever you want to, you are not restricted to stick with towns in your own territory ...

It seems people are terrified by the idea of intercontinental trade because if they get bushwacked off their home turf, they'll be at a disadvantage. Apparently making deals and securing protection along trade routes has never crossed their minds.

I understand what you are saying. However, I'm sure you notice that Thir is essentially going to play out as being an NA holding that is played on an EU esrver. The holding is just to far into NA territory. I just can't imagine a sustainable EU presence there considering its location.

I'd be very interested in seeing NA players try to capture Tihr. I can think of a couple of EU clans who might object rather strenuously.

[Majer]

Why not craft a new map? After all, the land is only a texture with fixed position of settlements (I believe it is adjustable within website map engine)

We could make a map, with two continents, both having sandy, snowy, and green lands. One with towns with battles always taking place on EU, and other one with US (with 2-hour delay between east-most and west-most village/town within continent. If any EU faction fancy conquering US lands or vice versa, they would always (whether attacking or defending) fight on town's time zone.
Also, we could have an neutral smaller continent between dedicated ones (Atlantis?) which would have settlements available to the most populated group. Within this "Atlantis" battles will take place in the time preferred by the owner.

[kinngrimm]

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Why not craft a new map? After all, the land is only a texture with fixed position of settlements (I believe it is adjustable within website map engine)

We could make a map, with two continents, both having sandy, snowy, and green lands. One with towns with battles always taking place on EU, and other one with US (with 2-hour delay between east-most and west-most village/town within continent. If any EU faction fancy conquering US lands or vice versa, they would always (whether attacking or defending) fight on town's time zone.
Also, we could have an neutral smaller continent between dedicated ones (Atlantis?) which would have settlements available to the most populated group. Within this "Atlantis" battles will take place in the time preferred by the owner.

because it needs time and effort and the current solution was something which was doable in a pragmatic way in a short term.
There are idears and discussion how to establish either NA and EU server with each the same map or include a mirrow of the map and extent that way the map as also creating/enlarging the current map. Still it needs time and effort, so please be patient.

[Majer]

I see no point switching from bad solution, to another bad one. So I suggest just wait and implement a proper strategus map, instead of having one not-good from the start, just waiting to get wiped again.

Also, I don't get the idea of mirroring - basically just number of settlements matter, nothing else.

[[ptx]]

Or rather, you don't get the point.

[Majer]

Because there is no point.

[[ptx]]

Or maybe you are just slow.

[Jarlek]

Or maybe you are just slow.

He is.

First I was gonna tell him that it was already explained, but thought "meh, it's 25 pages. He probably didn't read them all".

Then he kept on being a derp and I'm just gonna say:
ARE YOU SLOW!?!?
They ARE gonna have different maps. They ARE gonna change map every now and then. But they CAN'T and WILL NOT because now they are focusing on IMPROVING Strategus ITSELF! Go read the rest of this thread instead of just derping with a "new" suggestion at the end of it and then being angry and whiny when people explains shit to you.

BAH! Stupid people makes me angry!

[Majer]

The thing is, the whole split is pointless. Of course if by "improvement" I guess you mean actual subject of discussion. Throughout whole topic I couldn't notice any approved decisions regarding other aspects of strategus.

HURR DURR

[Thax]

Strat should be postponed until both maps are ready. Noone enjoys playing on 120+ ping. It isnt fun. (exceptions ofcourse)

Also EU needs to prove they can win because they lost every war for the last 50 years so they play slow and boring making no mistakes as if this is the reproving ground for the failures of their various societies (Im looking at you russia, not including how you invaded that beast of a nation Georgia). Americans like to play and play hard without worrying about proving themselves because we arent insecure with our place in the world. The two playing styles dont mix.

I personally dont like the beginning of strat peasant simulator with archers the only ones actually playing and the rest of us being useless archer targets.

Now with archers getting a buff it will be even worse.

[Joseph]

Strat should be postponed until both maps are ready. Noone enjoys playing on 120+ ping. It isnt fun. (exceptions ofcourse)

Also EU needs to prove they can win because they lost every war for the last 100 years so they play slow and boring making no mistakes as if this is the reproving ground for the failures of their various societies (Im looking at you russia). Americans like to play and play hard without worrying about proving themselves because we arent insecure with our place in the world. The two playing styles dont mix.

I personally dont like the beginning of strat peasant simulator with archers the only ones actually playing and the rest of us being useless archer targets.

Now with archers getting a buff it will be even worse.

You seem to forget that we are talking about a game not real life,
You probably hide behind a rock like they all did.

[Tears of Destiny]

I don't know anything about other countries.

I agree.

[Thax]

Im talking about my opinions on the reasons for the boring care-bear style of hand holding that prevails in EU. 

My first statement is what should matter....postpone strat until there are two maps.