Well, what about when the ATTACKERS do ATTACK the entire time? Why would we still have somewhere else to be, as was the case with the recent DRZ @ FCC battle? We were constantly forming up and attacking, and our side retreated automatically. It was really lame, as a grunt, because it was a good fight ended for no discernible reason. And I don't remember old strat, because I wasn't a part of it. Nobody would hire factionless me and I quit playing cRPG.