What to do about TKers?

[Leshma]

I think people need to be perma banned when they have previous history of herp derp activities. Most admins in this mod are too soft like they think that banning griefers will have negative influence on the whole community, but in reality is completely opposite.

[nuffen]

i remeber them reacting to you 350 days ban even more

That is totally irrelevant, we was discussing what works, not how I was as an admin. If all these posts from you are attempts on attacking how I was as an admin, please go make your own thread.

[highglandeur]

It was just to compare with last poll and adapt admin's behavior, ok then, sure guys, sorry i interrupted.
can I delete all my previous posts and throw the towel with you guys?

[Teeth]

awright mate, a few days ago thomek banned a leecher for seven days is that soft enough for ya?

Thomek is a manly admin, not some forgiving hippy! +1 to Thomek!

[Tears of Destiny]

As an experiment I will start handing out harsher punishments.

[Teeth]

As an experiment I will start handing out harsher punishments.

Yes! Crack down on these lawless evildoers!

[highglandeur]

Awright go and "punish" and be harsh, if it makes you fell better i son't care, after all it's just a game, you will loose players and members but that i guess, you don't care.
You keep whining about tk but guys admins have been fucking up my game experience much more than teamkillers, and let's be honest, i teamkill like 15 guys on a daily basis in this game, not intentionally but still quite a number. Hey, I'm a fucking spammer and it's not against the rules, and I've never been banned! And since spamming and spamming is the only thing i can do cause i sux with my OP 2hander, if I ever wanna tk someone, I can always pretend my teamkill was not intentional...why the fuck am I crying here?
Am I stupid? Sorry guys.
Yes you should be harsher on teamkill, ban them all for 300 days and then go on forum wait for the unban request that makes you feel so good.
Too bad some guys don't know about unban request (since you always mention it when the guy is already banned).

[Tears of Destiny]

Awright go and "punish" and be harsh, if it makes you fell better i son't care, after all it's just a game, you will loose players and members but that i guess, you don't care.
You keep whining about tk but guys admins have been fucking up my game experience much more than teamkillers, and let's be honest, i teamkill like 15 guys on a daily basis in this game, not intentionally but still quite a number. Hey, I'm a fucking spammer and it's not against the rules, and I've never been banned! And since spamming and spamming is the only thing i can do cause i sux with my OP 2hander, if I ever wanna tk someone, I can always pretend my teamkill was not intentional...why the fuck am I crying here?
Am I stupid? Sorry guys.
Yes you should be harsher on teamkill, ban them all for 300 days and then go on forum wait for the unban request that makes you feel so good.
Too bad some guys don't know about unban request (since you always mention it when the guy is already banned).

Nice rage post, this explains why you came into this thread super butt hurt to begin with.

I don't feel good about banning someone, I feel good on the days that I don't have to issue a single ban. That makes me feel good, when the server runs smoothly and quietly.

You need a break from cRPG if the Admins are all out to getcha and are ruining your game experience.

My job is not to oppress people, my job is to make sure that everyone (or rather, as many as is possible) has an enjoyable experience without jerks ruining the fun.

[nuffen]

I don't feel good about banning someone, I feel good on the days that I don't have to issue a single ban. That makes me feel good, when the server runs smoothly and quietly.

My job is not to oppress people, my job is to make sure that everyone (or rather, as many as is possible) has an enjoyable experience without jerks ruining the fun.

Quote for the win!

[highglandeur]

No worries i was just speaking my mind here
A good day for me is when i don't see pink text on my screen all the time and when I don't hear on teamspeak another guy crying all day because he has been banned without preliminary kick or has been banned for a year after saying "pink is gay" to an admin who kicked him or some shit like that, and even after saying "sorry daddy" on the forum he still got a 3 days ban.
However, I give you that one, being in VRN's team, since very recently, kind of made the "crying on teamspeak for ban" part vanish.
Let's look at the bright side of life!

[Kryser]

I'm tired of Drz guys raging on me just cause they cant win a strat battle, and tk me and my ladders whenever im on siege or battle.

Plz ban all of them. thanks

[Dach]

No worries i was just speaking my mind here
A good day for me is when i don't see pink text on my screen all the time and when I don't hear on teamspeak another guy crying all day because he has been banned without preliminary kick or has been banned for a year after saying "pink is gay" to an admin who kicked him or some shit like that, and even after saying "sorry daddy" on the forum he still got a 3 days ban.
However, I give you that one, being in VRN's team, since very recently, kind of made the "crying on teamspeak for ban" part vanish.
Let's look at the bright side of life!

I've been playing for nearly one year and I didn't get any warning from an admin since then...

Maybe they're doing it wrong... 

[RandomDude]

Clan mates tking each other for kicks doesnt help

[Phazey]

Too bad the thread got a bit derailed. I've read it with interest.

The impression i take from this thread is that some people thing admins are being too mild, but most agree that warn -> kick -> ban is best.

Alas, some cheecky twats slip through the mesh and get away with an occasional intentional teamkill.

I like the 'karma-system' suggestion: too many teamkills get you autokicked, especially in the start of the round.

Also, maybe some addition to the Q M L system would be worthwhile. What if you could Q M T someone, implying he's a intentional teamkiller. Getting QMT'd would not get you kicked, just add +1 on your QMT-value. If admins could see a player's QMT-value, they can make a better informed decision and respond with harsher punishments if a player has a very high QMT-value.

Prone to abuse though and i'm not sure building such a system is really worth the developer's time. Just as implementing a karma system. Perhaps they should just use their time on Strategus and on Stronghold.

What do you think?

[IG_Saint]

Too bad the thread got a bit derailed. I've read it with interest.

The impression i take from this thread is that some people thing admins are being too mild, but most agree that warn -> kick -> ban is best.

Alas, some cheecky twats slip through the mesh and get away with an occasional intentional teamkill.

How do you get that impression? 33 people voted for warning, 59 for a kick and 120 for a ban. Most people want an instant ban for intentional TKers. Far fewer people posted than voted, so going by what people said in this thread doesn't make that much sense. Not that the poll provides accurate data, but still a larger sampling is always beter.

Also, maybe some addition to the Q M L system would be worthwhile. What if you could Q M T someone, implying he's a intentional teamkiller. Getting QMT'd would not get you kicked, just add +1 on your QMT-value. If admins could see a player's QMT-value, they can make a better informed decision and respond with harsher punishments if a player has a very high QMT-value.

Prone to abuse though and i'm not sure building such a system is really worth the developer's time. Just as implementing a karma system. Perhaps they should just use their time on Strategus and on Stronghold.

This idea I quite like, but a (good) way of keeping track of warnings might work just as well.