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Re: What do you think about autobalance by banner?
« Reply #45 on: January 26, 2011, 11:33:29 pm »
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banner balance: more social + tactics and teamplay. very nice:D

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Re: What do you think about autobalance by banner?
« Reply #46 on: January 27, 2011, 02:45:10 am »
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Do u know that if u change ur banner to those pro's, then  u can be with them forever.

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Re: What do you think about autobalance by banner?
« Reply #47 on: January 27, 2011, 02:46:54 am »
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Banner Balance is the best :)

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Re: What do you think about autobalance by banner?
« Reply #48 on: January 27, 2011, 03:07:14 am »
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To those who dislike banner balance, I challenge you to find another multiplayer game that does not allow clanmates to play together.  CS, TF2, oldschool unreal, quake, etc, all allow clanmates to join up together on the same team. 

You join a clan to play together.  This is very important especially with strat down.  It is now the only way for clanmates to actually play together. 

The balancing perhaps needs to change, but quite often we see 2 of our guys on one team vs. the other 10.  It may take banner into account, but it is by no means an absolute.

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Re: What do you think about autobalance by banner?
« Reply #49 on: January 27, 2011, 07:48:20 am »
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Love it, but it should be more strict whenever possible.

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Re: What do you think about autobalance by banner?
« Reply #50 on: January 27, 2011, 09:35:43 am »
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What's wrong is that banner balance takes precedence over this career KD ratio factor. So if a clan is full of people who regularly go 5:1 or more, they are all on the same team.

Not that I personally have a problem with it - I think its awesome to have some way to allow people to play together who want to (even if it is a clunky system.) But I can see how people who are playing on their own can have a major issue!
No. It is not "banner balance takes precedence over this career KD ratio factor".
Just "split by banner" procedure run first and then rest players are splitted by k\d.
Easy as one, two, three ^)

It is ONE process for both variables. Formula (process\procedure) what splitting players to the team takes into account (?) AND banner AND k\d.
AND (how I sad) if one team will have 10 high k\d players with one banner - other team will have much more high skilled players (with no banner) or much more quantity of casual player.
OR (btw it's happend many time even now) - every team have at least 1 organized faction.
I have been played with 2 factions in team A and 3 factions in team B (Templars+Pecores vs STR+TR+(forgot :) ).
It was just F*****G AWESOME for all players on the server (faction and factionless). So many fun (I am pretty sure) noone have before from playing crpg (only Strategus battle have those fun lvl).
One our faction cover left flank. Other center. Enemy factions (both) attack in front. Our 3rd faction make flank maneur (and other clanless players help they - instead of randomly run over map). e.t.c....
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Re: What do you think about autobalance by banner?
« Reply #51 on: January 27, 2011, 09:44:10 am »
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Yeah nothing better can happen then both sides having some bigger clans on it.
It always leads to a better game for everybody.

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Re: What do you think about autobalance by banner?
« Reply #52 on: January 27, 2011, 09:58:36 am »
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FANTASTIC !!!

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Re: What do you think about autobalance by banner?
« Reply #53 on: January 28, 2011, 11:02:46 am »
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I love autobalance by banner...but sometimes shit happens  :shock:

(In Siege)

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Re: What do you think about autobalance by banner?
« Reply #54 on: January 28, 2011, 01:32:49 pm »
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I try to be positive but can't ignore the problem of uneven teams. :|

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Re: What do you think about autobalance by banner?
« Reply #55 on: January 28, 2011, 01:47:52 pm »
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Do it, I'll change my banner to Mercs/Ninjas/Guards etc whoever is pwning on the server I want to play on, easy profit!

/sarcasm off

I'd rather have some kind of clanbattle system! Where clans can organise battles (outside strategus!) against each other on the c-rpg.net site.
Don't mind the fish.

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Re: What do you think about autobalance by banner?
« Reply #56 on: January 28, 2011, 02:10:56 pm »
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Faction players give big boost to team not because of they so high skilled (some of them, but very very not all).
But because they playing together!
Instead of "Brownian motion" non faction players in other team (not always, but often).

Even those "Brownian motion" oriented players - when see organized group of players - they often trying playing organized too.
They more accurate cover from cavalry, they rushing archers...
And because - often win.

If someone want to play in totally random team, with totally separately playing players (not teamwork oriented).... then why to play at all?
In this case  - win is based not at your skill - but it will be random process. Why to play if your doings not affect on the results?
In all games - organized society (team) have advantages. If you (impersonal "you") will do this too (at least part of players in the team) -
problem solved.

But no - if someone can be organized but I (for some reason) not - let disable to organize at all. Nice.

To avoid this - just create a "semi-clan organization" oriented only on cRPG (not Strategus).
Choose your banner and let player join to you (check, of course, on the brain existence).
Let here will be more clans (even soft clans, not hard structure).
Even 3 players together are a real power against 3 random running players.
Even 3 players faction is usefull.

P.s. if someone of dev.team reading this - is it possible to increase banner quantity by times (x2, x3....)?
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Re: What do you think about autobalance by banner?
« Reply #57 on: January 28, 2011, 03:02:40 pm »
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Good times. Still pretty happy with BannerBalance.

RS Shock Troops hit up a server last night and proceeded to annihilate everything that got in the general area.

Approximately 12~15 of us engaged in battle across varying terrains and for the most part, messed up the multiplier of the other team.

Good times.
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Re: What do you think about autobalance by banner?
« Reply #58 on: January 28, 2011, 03:20:10 pm »
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I don't know much on this mechanism, so my idea might be pointless. I propose to run on one server strong version of autobalance by banner/faction to test a few days and see how people play. If possible, it wiil be good to check, and not only theoretically discussed. Please tell if you know something.
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Re: What do you think about autobalance by banner?
« Reply #59 on: January 28, 2011, 06:58:34 pm »
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I try to be positive but can't ignore the problem of uneven teams. :|

Even number of players on a team != balance!
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