Some archery research

[Banok]

been about a year since I played archer properly and mechanics changed much and nowhere is any solid info I can see. So I did a bit of rough research using a "skip the fun" char for myself, but thought you might be interested. they layout is very rough but should be comprehend-able:

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so this new "you do not have enough wpf" marked by "pen/penalty" cant see any effect in reticle size, unsure what it actually does, anyone?

powerdraw does not seem to have any effect on accuracy anymore.

plus I made a new sig

[Leshma]

long bow + wpf = bow speed increase

longbow is terribly slow bellow 150 wpf

[gazda]

You edited this picture proffesionally 

[bertas]

Nice.Good job 

[Bija]

Interesting!

The shortbow reticule looks pretty much the same at 100 wpf as the horn bow reticule at 150 wpf. Has anyone tried a 117~ wpf shortbow strength build? (Is PD above 10 beneficial?)

Example:

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 39
    Agility: 3
    Hit points: 78

    Skills to attributes: 14

    Ironflesh: 2
    Power Strike: 0
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 1
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 13
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 1

    One Handed: 1
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 117
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1

[[ptx]]

I've heard that bows don't benefit from PD some 3 or 4 points above their requirement, or something like that.

[Tears of Destiny]

I've heard that bows don't benefit from PD some 3 or 4 points above their requirement, or something like that.

Anything past 4PD of the requirement is literally useless.

[Farrok]

Anything past 4PD of the requirement is literally useless.

i know about this but what about pd under the requirement?

for example get a longbow used with 8pd, 8*pd-bonus or only 2*pd-bonus?

[[ptx]]

8 PD bonus, of course. But a long bow won't benefit from above 10 PD, then. Or so i think.

[Dach]

banok, here's the reason why the penalty doesn't show in the reticule.

when you get the penalty message it reduce your PD skill to the level where your wpf is enough.

example: i got PD 4 but only 50 wpf in archery (4x14 = 56), that's mean only my PD 3 affect the damage I deal.

[Bija]

8 PD bonus, of course. But a long bow won't benefit from above 10 PD, then. Or so i think.

Confirmed. At least if the message "your proficiency in bows is too low" is the application of said rule.

Did a Skip The Fun-character and got that message with 10 PD - 138 WPF.

[Banok]

banok, here's the reason why the penalty doesn't show in the reticule.

when you get the penalty message it reduce your PD skill to the level where your wpf is enough.

example: i got PD 4 but only 50 wpf in archery (4x14 = 56), that's mean only my PD 3 affect the damage I deal.

interesting if true, so its not an accuracy penalty, just a damage one.

[Jambi]

In my experience, every single point of archery wpf above 160 adds significantly more arrow speed, draw speed and damage, then a wpf point below 160 would do. But that might just be me.

[Leshma]

In my experience, every single point of archery wpf above 160 adds significantly more arrow speed, draw speed and damage, then a wpf point below 160 would do. But that might just be me.

I was using longbow for just one gen but I can confirm this.

Had 163 wpf, going from 152 to 163 was a HUGE buff, especially when it comes to the most important thing about longbow - draw speed.

Would like hear opinion of an archer who's lvl 33 and dedicated (all wpf in achery, 8 wm).

[Tears of Destiny]

I know with a Rus bow that going from 6 to 7 WM sure made a massive difference for every build that I did.