buff bastard weapons in 1handed mode

[Glyph]

the HBS sword does 23.4 cut swing damge when used in 1handed mode and is a lot slower aswell, i think they need a buff, not 35% of the damage, but more something like 15%, so that it is really useable.

[Sammael]

the HBS sword does 23.4 cut swing damge when used in 1handed mode and is a lot slower aswell, i think they need a buff, not 35% of the damage, but more something like 15%, so that it is really useable.

I whole-heartedly concur. I'd like to see 2h weapons in 1h mode be just slightly sub-par to 1h weapons of the same category, instead of mostly useless, as they are now.

Or, even be pretty much equivalent, but they would have the disadvantage of taking two slots (longsword and bastard swords anyway).

Something like this for the HBS

2h mode
98 speed
105 length
23 pierce
36 cut

1h mode
94 speed
105 length
19 pierce
32 cut

This would make it basically a very slightly worse arabian cavalry sword that takes two slots instead of one. Useful, but less effective, due to the fact that it is also an excellent 2h weapon.

[Bobthehero]

They should entirely remove the *use a shield to switch stance* and use the X button, like they did for the lange messer and the fighting axe, would allow for much more varied stats between items, rather than a 15% (example) reduction.

[Soldier_of_God]

i totally agree with this thread. Devs, i truly hope you are reading this 

[Glyph]

i want to be 1handed cav with 2handed weapon on foot, but not possible without making giant losses(atleast when you want to ride a warhorse)

[Jarlek]

i want to be 1handed cav with 2handed weapon on foot, but not possible without making giant losses(atleast when you want to ride a warhorse)

The penatlies don't stack. A 1h/2h with a shield on horse is as good as a 1h/2h without a shield on horse. Same with polearms.

Which brings me too... DO NOT buff 2handers in 1h mode before you buff hoplite! Both of them need a buff but the hoplite is in WAY more need of one. They have the same penalties but at least the 2handers still can attack in 3 or 4 directions.

[Tears of Destiny]

The HBS is too cheap compared to equivalent one handers to be buffed in one handed mode.

[Glyph]

The HBS is too cheap compared to equivalent one handers to be buffed in one handed mode.

that's why it should be as good as 1handers like it, but good enough to use it propperly. it does 23c damage when used with a shield. that's not normal for a heavy sword, and it's a hand and a half-sword(look at the handle) it should a good heavy 1handed sword, 94 speed and 32 c damage would seem fair to me

[Tears of Destiny]

that's why it should be as good as 1handers like it, but good enough to use it propperly. it does 23c damage when used with a shield. that's not normal for a heavy sword, and it's a hand and a half-sword(look at the handle) it should a good heavy 1handed sword, 94 speed and 32 c damage would seem fair to me

Should be a little worse then that, otherwise there is very little point in using, say, the Arabian Cavalry Sword.

[PieParadox]

With all the range nowadays 2hs are getting shafted. Now that I use a shield, I can still get shot by a good archer as I slowly attempt to sword them to death with my shield up. Sometimes I just grab a fast 1h and with 0 wpf its so much faster than a 2h bastard.

[Glyph]

Should be a little worse then that, otherwise there is very little point in using, say, the Arabian Cavalry Sword.

ìt is worse than an arab cav sword

[Sammael]

Should be a little worse then that, otherwise there is very little point in using, say, the Arabian Cavalry Sword.

So a point of speed a point of damage and an extra slot taken are practically nothing? Hmmm....

[Tears of Destiny]

So a point of speed a point of damage and an extra slot taken are practically nothing? Hmmm....

Considering it is more then canceled out by having a very good two handed mode, yeah...

[Kafein]

I remember when I tried using the mace (you know the most used weapon on the whole game) with a shield, maybe a month ago. It was so slow I could have been outspammed by great maul sideswings. At first people die because they are surprised by your awkward speed but it doesn't last long.

I say reduce the penalties if possible. They should not be as good as 1h in general, but slightly better only in terms of reach.

[Jarlek]

I remember when I tried using the mace (you know the most used weapon on the whole game) with a shield, maybe a month ago. It was so slow I could have been outspammed by great maul sideswings. At first people die because they are surprised by your awkward speed but it doesn't last long.

I say reduce the penalties if possible. They should not be as good as 1h in general, but slightly better only in terms of reach.

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