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Re: War: Druzhina Vs FCC
« Reply #150 on: September 03, 2011, 07:43:29 pm »
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Well, the other option is that they're preparing to attack Wolves, and maybe Mercs, so they can set up Olwen as lord of the Reyvadin area. Since they already wiped out the Wolves' vassal, it would be a natural next step. Little doubt they'll move in to help if DRZ runs into any real trouble, though.

Another option would be to attack the other faction that are allies with FCC, this could be a good way to help Drz, i mean we all know that Fallens and Hre give troops to FCC, fallens already attacked a Drz fief in the north. If grey attacks Hre and fallen, they will cut the line of supply and Hre/fallen will have to fight in the south and will stop providing troops to FCC...
If i was friend (ally or secret member of UIF 2) of Drz, that is what i will do (if i had armies ofc, lol).


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Re: War: Druzhina Vs FCC
« Reply #151 on: September 03, 2011, 07:52:53 pm »
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Go clean your room and let the grownups talk to each other...

Lol arnt you like 13 or something?

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Re: War: Druzhina Vs FCC
« Reply #152 on: September 03, 2011, 08:01:07 pm »
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Sorry, but as stated before, we didn't feel it was necessary to go along with your little baseless, short-sighted whims of going to war for a second time just so that you could help try and pay off the huge check you knew your asses couldn't cash when you wrote it out to all of the NA factions you pleaded to join your cause.( Even then, you still would have been crushed had we not intervened in the first place). We told you guys that we would be helping you fighting in the war with you but on a separate front. We were prepared to go to war whether you guys survived or not, it just so happens that the NE was a paper tiger at the time and folded. I'm not sure how you can hold us accountable for that. Honestly, you give us too much credit in that respect. Given how terribly you guys have handled diplomacy in strat thus far, we would have had a harder time getting lions to eat prime rib.

So you admit you didnt go along with the war when we asked, we won despite you and then you came along and demanded Rebache, just because.  We asked for a 2 week non-aggression pact from your ally as it would be foolish to give you a fief and then have your ally attack us a few days later.  You and your ally refused that as just too much to ask for ... obviously your leadership had planned on attacking us as soon as you saw us doing so well against Northern Empire (especially since you satrted sheltering Hospitallers and Occitan within DRZ lands after the first couple days of the war) and getting all these fiefs that you could have had if your leadership was a little more brave.  The grunts in Chaos are great and brave fighters and would always be willing for a fight, but it seem slike the leadership is very much like another NE.
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Re: War: Druzhina Vs FCC
« Reply #153 on: September 03, 2011, 08:04:37 pm »
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Yeah, this would make strategus really boring.  Right now DRZ, Chaos, Templars, Hospitallers, ATS, Occitan - all working together to fight us.  If Grey Order joins in (they are allied with 22nd, Risen, BashaBazouk, and Union) it owuld mean 65-70% of the EU players and 40% of the NA players are all working together, so essentially half the entire cRPG playerbase.  Kind of a weak way to win on Strategus as no real honor or challenge in that.  But I guess FCC is pretty intimidating....  we do control the airwaves after all.

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Re: War: Druzhina Vs FCC
« Reply #154 on: September 03, 2011, 08:06:59 pm »
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I feel like i'm a swiss merc in the middle of the italian wars and the french are getting mad at the swiss's success against the ineffective italian cunts.

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Re: War: Druzhina Vs FCC
« Reply #155 on: September 03, 2011, 08:10:19 pm »
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I feel like i'm a swiss merc in the middle of the italian wars and the french are getting mad at the swiss's success against the ineffective italian cunts.

Well put lol

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Re: War: Druzhina Vs FCC
« Reply #156 on: September 03, 2011, 08:36:07 pm »
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So you admit you didnt go along with the war when we asked, we won despite you and then you came along and demanded Rebache, just because.  We asked for a 2 week non-aggression pact from your ally as it would be foolish to give you a fief and then have your ally attack us a few days later.  You and your ally refused that as just too much to ask for ... obviously your leadership had planned on attacking us as soon as you saw us doing so well against Northern Empire (especially since you satrted sheltering Hospitallers and Occitan within DRZ lands after the first couple days of the war) and getting all these fiefs that you could have had if your leadership was a little more brave.  The grunts in Chaos are great and brave fighters and would always be willing for a fight, but it seem slike the leadership is very much like another NE.

We asked for Rebache because we were going to come and fight regardless, we just didn't join in when you wanted us to. That alone wouldn't be enough to warrant taking Rebache, but considering we abandoned our other plans in the north in order to come help you guys and save you from getting crushed by the Mercs, we thought we were within our rights, and you agreed to it. You didn't try to flip flop on your decision until after the war ended prematurely and you felt we didn't deserve it unless we signed into a formal alliance with you guys, which just isn't fair and you know it. You guys tried doing the same fast and loose diplomacy with DRZ when you wanted to extend your nearly expired NAP and they didn't go for it.

Honestly, seeing the leadership of BRD call us timid or overly cautious is like an alcoholic party animal telling the bookworm that he is wasting his life away studying those books. You guys have been in battle since Strat started basically because you planned things out rather poorly. Even if you look at how the Merc war started you can't tell me it wasn't bad planning. You've basically been living like Unfortunately, a big part of the rockstar lifestyle usually means burning out prematurely.
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Re: War: Druzhina Vs FCC
« Reply #157 on: September 03, 2011, 08:44:28 pm »
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haha but so far it has been one hell of a ride!!!
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Re: War: Druzhina Vs FCC
« Reply #158 on: September 03, 2011, 08:54:22 pm »
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You realize the entire point of current Strategus is war, right? chadz has mentioned that in-future he wants to create Strategus into something more than a medieval war simulator, but right now all you can do is build up troops and gold, to have a fucking war. FCC has done a brilliant job at doing that, and has provided many a fun battles, and gained friends from almost every North American clan you can think of in the process of it. I think the FCC is one of the few clans that has had one of the more enjoyable times in this game because of said war, and with their said gained friends from the North American community, they would be able to come back from being wiped out.

The same cannot be said for CHAOS on both accounts of what I just said.

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Re: War: Druzhina Vs FCC
« Reply #159 on: September 03, 2011, 08:55:51 pm »
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Honestly, seeing the leadership of BRD call us timid or overly cautious is like an alcoholic party animal telling the bookworm that he is wasting his life away studying those books. You guys have been in battle since Strat started basically because you planned things out rather poorly. Even if you look at how the Merc war started you can't tell me it was bad planning. You've basically been living like Unfortunately, a big part of the rockstar lifestyle usually means burning out prematurely.

I think you've got it backwards, actually. Playing strategus seriously is the fastest way to burn out in this game. Strategus diplomacy is the most soul-crushingly awful experience I've ever had in a video game. It's like being in the middle of a reality show, except everyone is even more bitchy and arrogant than usual, and also everyone is speaking different languages.

There is a reason LLJK has rotating leadership responsibilities, its because none of us can stand running the clan for more than a month or so at a time or we'd uninstall mount and blade and never return.

Now GODKING_PARTYBOY_BIRD, now that motherfucker is onto something. Just roamin' the land fighting whoever he wants. Thats the way to do it.
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Re: War: Druzhina Vs FCC
« Reply #160 on: September 03, 2011, 08:56:30 pm »
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As long as FCC has people feeding them troops, then there will be perpetual war (fun)

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Re: War: Druzhina Vs FCC
« Reply #161 on: September 03, 2011, 09:02:20 pm »
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There is a reason LLJK has rotating leadership responsibilities, its because none of us can stand running the clan for more than a month or so at a time or we'd uninstall mount and blade and never return.

Growl, Bane, Beauchamp, Oberyn (still playing) are good example of what you said.

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Re: War: Druzhina Vs FCC
« Reply #162 on: September 03, 2011, 09:07:34 pm »
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There is a reason LLJK has rotating leadership responsibilities, its because none of us can stand running the clan for more than a month or so at a time or we'd uninstall mount and blade and never return.

Now GODKING_PARTYBOY_BIRD, now that motherfucker is onto something. Just roamin' the land fighting whoever he wants. Thats the way to do it.

Good idea.

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Re: War: Druzhina Vs FCC
« Reply #163 on: September 03, 2011, 09:07:57 pm »
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I doubt it, after Harpag said that he was ashamed that Olwen was with them and that he would be kicked out if he was with them now.

Oh? Last I saw, they both claimed to have parted on friendly terms and that they would remain close. When was this?
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Re: War: Druzhina Vs FCC
« Reply #164 on: September 03, 2011, 09:16:15 pm »
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Don't get me wrong, i'm all for going into battles and having fun but I don't think that should be an excuse for running around, playing recklessly and throwing away all the troops and money you had built up. That would REALLY burn us out. Our members have gotten into plenty of battles, more than LLJK or FCC? Most definitely not, and FCC probably would come back from being wiped out, they've made many friends and they've made many enemies. Both LLJK and BRD were in similar positions at one point if I remember correctly. Had the Union not come to aid LLJK as the massive number of alliances came down on top of them, i'm not sure if the desert would still be afgoonistan. It worked out well for you guys and that's also great, but that is not the position or approach CHAOS wants to take. Even if we were to get wiped out we would also be able to come back from being wiped out, but it would be for different reasons, as our style of diplomacy and way of doing things has been entirely different and I don't think there is any thing wrong with that.

A big part of CHAOS forming in the first place was to take a legitimate, serious approach to Strat. We'd still be RS otherwise. We know we can join battles and  probably do rather well, but we want to have some  territory and be a presence on the map. It's been a learning experience for all of us and I honestly don't think we've done too badly at all thus far.
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