Hahahahaahahaha oh my god. So you're implying that our plans against LLJK (which never concerned you in the first place) with 4 other clans (1k ats army and 3 clans without any fiefs) ,that got compromised by a traitor clan which switched sides and got itself a better deal is "assholish backstabbing tactics" ? Are you guys in love with LLJK ? Or do you hate searaiders/vrn/ pecores/templars whom we tried to get some lands off LLJK ? What the hell are you on about ?
And where the HELL did you get the image of us stating that we're the most honorable clan or that we've ever trolled the Risen after they got hacked ? Get your freaking facts straight before posting your accusations for crying out loud.
Everyone knows wtf happened ? And what happened exactly ? We tried to take out LLJK (who now ,as we predicted , are gonna have almost the entire desert) and establish minor clans in their lands. While trying to deal with our neighbours' (Legio ) constant whining how they don't have enough lands and trying to offer them the lands that we could conquer. We kept asking you to stay out of the southern conflict, but of course we got attacked as soon as we got weakened.
Now stop putting words into our mouths and stating things that we've never stated.
@Zapper my intention was not to insult Cicero. I've known him for a long time and our current state of affairs with him and his clan is causing some frustraion.
I like how all of us are whiners, but you never whine/rage/gloat.
Yes, there were some shogunate who went "lol we beat n00b risen" after we got hacked, even after the fact that we got hacked was announced and confirmed by devs.
Yes, you did try to gang up on LLJK with a lot of clans. Because they are fiefless/small/green-eyed-bugs from mars/pastafarians doesn't change that. Your reasons for this is irrelevant. (yes I understand why you did it and it was a good reason to do so, but you still ganged up)
Yes, you do keep saying that anyone who goes to war against you are "backstabbing/immoral/dishonourable/big meanies. Even though we made a decleration of war and everything before we attack AND there were no deals from before that.
And no, Legio wasn't "whining" for you to give them land. They were telling you that they wanted more land, something which is a nice thing to inform about. You offering them lands far away from where they already had, wasn't a very good offer so they had to find another way to get lands.