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Siege of Szigetvár or Battle of Szigeth
« on: August 14, 2011, 06:21:00 pm »
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In January 1566 Suleiman went to war for the last time. The siege of Szigetvár was fought from 5 August to 8 September 1566 and, though it resulted in an Ottoman victory, there were heavy losses on both sides. Both commanders died during the battle—Zrinsky in the final charge and Suleiman in his tent from natural causes.More than 20,000 Turks had fallen during the attacks and almost all of Zrinsky's 2,300 man garrison was killed, with most of the final 600 men killed on the last day.Although the battle was an Ottoman victory, it stopped the Ottoman push to Vienna that year. Vienna was not threatened again until the Battle of Vienna in 1683.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Szigetvár

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Re: Siege of Szigetvár or Battle of Szigeth
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2011, 06:28:52 pm »
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What I think: Hungarians > Ottomans.
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Re: Siege of Szigetvár or Battle of Szigeth
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2011, 06:57:40 pm »
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What I think: Hungarians > Ottomans.

What i think in my honest shy personal opinon

Ottomans > Hungarians
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Re: Siege of Szigetvár or Battle of Szigeth
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2011, 07:28:38 pm »
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What i think in my mentally challenged brain-dead opinon

Ottomans > Hungarians

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Re: Siege of Szigetvár or Battle of Szigeth
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2011, 07:41:39 pm »
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So this siege implies with its 30000 losses on attacker's side compared to 2500 for defender's that a 12:1 ratio is needed to succeed in a siege as attackers.
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Re: Siege of Szigetvár or Battle of Szigeth
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2011, 07:53:46 pm »
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Ye dirty hungaria lovar. STAR TREK SUCKS.

Also Ottomans all the way.
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Re: Siege of Szigetvár or Battle of Szigeth
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2011, 08:12:13 pm »
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Please dont turn this into another Safavid thread(TM) filled with religious bullshit.
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Re: Siege of Szigetvár or Battle of Szigeth
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2011, 08:24:07 pm »
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Please dont turn this into another Safavid thread(TM) filled with religious bullshit.

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And that's that. Also Ottomans had cooler weapons than East Europe uncivilized barbarians. U know it
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Re: Siege of Szigetvár or Battle of Szigeth
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2011, 10:22:58 pm »
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So this siege implies with its 30000 losses on attacker's side compared to 2500 for defender's that a 12:1 ratio is needed to succeed in a siege as attackers.

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Re: Siege of Szigetvár or Battle of Szigeth
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2011, 10:53:15 pm »
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The defender should have just taken the flag down so they couldnt spawn then kill then while keeping the flag down, that way they would get all the tickets and the equipment.

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Re: Siege of Szigetvár or Battle of Szigeth
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2011, 02:51:20 am »
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As a Hungarian, I don't think that making fun of the Hungarian history is fun, Zrinsky and his men were heroes.
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Re: Siege of Szigetvár or Battle of Szigeth
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2011, 05:45:58 am »
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What about the siege of Eger, eh?

Don't want to bring up that huh?
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Re: Siege of Szigetvár or Battle of Szigeth
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2011, 02:45:46 pm »
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Zrinsky or Nikola Šubić Zrinski was Croat. Ofc he was under Hungarian rule but still. Hes great hero here in Croatia and in Hungary aswell. He even has got very cheap liquor named after him which I emptied once and never again :)
Not to mention clasical piece made after him, which is very popular in believe it or not Japan.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqQf_92dgHM

Anyway I will strangle anyone who thinks different with garrote.

Awaiting for nuffen reply.
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Re: Siege of Szigetvár or Battle of Szigeth
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2011, 05:02:11 pm »
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Hungarians and Croatians were always in good relations. :)

Shame I have to share this sentiment with people such as Gnjus and Captain Georges though... :lol:
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Re: Siege of Szigetvár or Battle of Szigeth
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2011, 05:17:04 pm »
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Ah one of small castles that we took =). No matter with numbers 20.000 can fall , 40.000 will come back.

Battle of Mohaç
Generals                                                                   
Kanuni Sultan Süleyman (Main army)                          II. Lajos ( King of Hungary died in swamp )
Şehzade Mustafa (Right Side )                                    Pál Tomori ☠
Pargalı Damat İbrahim Paşa (Left Side )   

Forces
50.000 - 60.000 troops                                              50.000 troops , 100 guns
300 cannons
Casualties
1000 - 2000 lost [1]                                                     Noone survived

Time : only 2 hours ( fastest battle in history as a field battle )