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Re: Need help for a cavalry build
« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2011, 01:30:28 am »
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If you do 4 PS and 0 shield, you can do 10 riding.  I think that'd be a little too much though, but would be hilarious.

4 athletics I find is good enough to use my heavy lance as a long spear when I'm dismounted and run away when need be, but I usually just fight wherever I land.  In strategus, its enough to get back into friendly lines.  Need at least 3 shield to use most of the shields people buy in Strategus battles.

You don't need Weapon Master for any dedicated build except ranged, and you especially don't need it as a cavalry lancer.

I used to do 0 athletics cav builds, but I enjoy melee combat fighting enough that 0 athletics makes me feel too gimped and I'd get mad at the game.  4 athletics can make you twice as fast as some NA players anyways.

Just throw whatever points you can into Iron Flesh, because I can often survive a full speed light cav lance right to my chest and get away with barely any HP left.  The only problem with the build is the relative weakness of having just 15 STR when it comes to melee fighting, but considering if I'm fighting on the ground I screwed up already, its not a big deal.
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Re: Need help for a cavalry build
« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2011, 01:32:53 am »
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Re: Need help for a cavalry build
« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2011, 01:41:06 am »
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If you ask me , best cav build is this

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Re: Need help for a cavalry build
« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2011, 02:06:35 am »
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Keep upkeep in mind, calvary can get very, very expensive  :(
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Re: Need help for a cavalry build
« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2011, 02:17:31 am »
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If you ask me , best cav build is this

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Drop the point from either shield or weapon master, rather than a key element such as athletics. Also split your points, you do not need over 130 weapon proficiency in anything that doesn't relate to a crosshair.

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Re: Need help for a cavalry build
« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2011, 02:17:51 am »
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Keep upkeep in mind, calvary can get very, very expensive  :(

That's why most people build here are made with a sumpter horse in mind!

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Re: Need help for a cavalry build
« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2011, 04:18:16 am »
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Yes, you need that much agi because you need that much wpf. The shield slows down you polearm SO MUCH that any wpf you can get is valuable.

wrong - speed is the same with shield as without when you are lancing from a horse - i think it was Walt who proved that, cba to find the topic. The important thing is that tehre is no difference. My suggestion:

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

Strength: 18
Agility: 18
Hit points: 53
Skills to attributes: 2
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 6
Shield: 5
Athletics: 6
Riding: 6
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 6
One Handed: 77
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 145
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

You can remove some from shield and put it in IF if you prefer.
This allows you to 1-hit the people while still giving you 6 riding. The 77 1h is to give you a sidearm for when your horse gets killed, which is very important imo, and 1h/shield works betetr than those crappy 1-slot polearms.

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Re: Need help for a cavalry build
« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2011, 04:28:22 am »
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0 Weapon Master for life.  You can get another level of power strike or riding in any of these builds if you sacrifice weapon master and some shield/athletics.  We are making cav builds after all, aren't we?  Its only worthwhile if you plan on doing 1 hand melee and polearm lancing.  Then by all means.. get 2 points.  At most, IMO. 

Why so many 5-6 shield skills too?  All you can use is an Elite Cav shield anyways.  All you should care about is getting Riding as stupidly high as you can, with maxed Power Strike.

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Re: Need help for a cavalry build
« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2011, 05:35:37 am »
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I want to be capable both on foot and horse with both polearm and shield.

Grinded my way to lvl 32 to have everything a pure lvl 30 cav has and everything a pure lvl 30 inf has.

I'll hit 6 shield skill at lvl 33, allowing me to use steel shield when playing support shielder and for the lulz :)

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Re: Need help for a cavalry build
« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2011, 05:43:33 am »
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lvl 32 cav build is 18/21

To get a taste, try

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    * Strength: 18
    * Agility: 21
    * Hit points: 53

    * Skills to attributes: 8

    * Ironflesh: 0
    * Power Strike: 6
    * Shield: 0
    * Athletics: 5
    * Riding: 7
    * Horse Archery: 0
    * Power Draw: 0
    * Power Throw: 0
    * Weapon Master: 5

    * One Handed: 1
    * Two Handed: 1
    * Polearm: 148
    * Archery: 1
    * Crossbow: 1
    * Throwing:


Key points:

6 PS
7 Riding

ProL33tGodRidingBuild - 35

Level 35 (142 278 448 xp)

    * Strength: 21
    * Agility: 21
    * Hit points: 64

    * Skills to attributes: 4

    * Ironflesh: 4
    * Power Strike: 7
    * Shield: 0
    * Athletics: 7
    * Riding: 7
    * Horse Archery: 0
    * Power Draw: 0
    * Power Throw: 0
    * Weapon Master: 7

    * One Handed: 1
    * Two Handed: 1
    * Polearm: 148
    * Archery: 1
    * Crossbow: 1
    * Throwing: 1

^^ is what I am aiming for after reaching gencap, from 18/21 at lvl 32
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Re: Need help for a cavalry build
« Reply #25 on: August 18, 2011, 05:52:18 am »
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4 athletics I find is good enough to use my heavy lance as a long spear when I'm dismounted and run away when need be, but I usually just fight wherever I land.

Plz note that the scene is very different between NA and EU. On NA, what rich said may be true.

On EU with 4 ath, tho, ppl will dance round you like you aren't moving. If you want to be at all feasible in foot combat, you need at least 6 ath. 7 pref.
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Re: Need help for a cavalry build
« Reply #26 on: August 18, 2011, 05:52:36 am »
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lvl 32 cav build is 18/21

To get a taste, try

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    * Strength: 18
    * Agility: 21
    * Hit points: 53

    * Skills to attributes: 8

    * Ironflesh: 0
    * Power Strike: 6
    * Shield: 0
    * Athletics: 5
    * Riding: 7
    * Horse Archery: 0
    * Power Draw: 0
    * Power Throw: 0
    * Weapon Master: 5

    * One Handed: 1
    * Two Handed: 1
    * Polearm: 148
    * Archery: 1
    * Crossbow: 1
    * Throwing:


Key points:

6 PS
7 Riding

ProL33tGodRidingBuild - 35

Level 35 (142 278 448 xp)

    * Strength: 21
    * Agility: 21
    * Hit points: 64

    * Skills to attributes: 4

    * Ironflesh: 4
    * Power Strike: 7
    * Shield: 0
    * Athletics: 7
    * Riding: 7
    * Horse Archery: 0
    * Power Draw: 0
    * Power Throw: 0
    * Weapon Master: 7

    * One Handed: 1
    * Two Handed: 1
    * Polearm: 148
    * Archery: 1
    * Crossbow: 1
    * Throwing: 1

^^ is what I am aiming for after reaching gencap, from 18/21 at lvl 32

i pretty much agree with this... but i figured i'll never hit 35,  so ill just increase my shield and if from now on :) Thats means i'll have maxed shield and if if i ever hit 35 instead of the extra 3 agi

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Re: Need help for a cavalry build
« Reply #27 on: August 18, 2011, 05:55:38 am »
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i pretty much agree with this... but i figured i'll never hit 35,  so ill just increase my shield and if from now on :) Thats means i'll have maxed shield and if if i ever hit 35 instead of the extra 3 agi

Aye, 35 is a long way away. But who knows. C-rpg has kept me riveted for over a year now. Another year and I'll have it.
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Re: Need help for a cavalry build
« Reply #28 on: August 18, 2011, 06:18:11 am »
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Aye, 35 is a long way away. But who knows. C-rpg has kept me riveted for over a year now. Another year and I'll have it.

true story... ill just get double the exp needed for lvl 35 and then respec xD

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Re: Need help for a cavalry build
« Reply #29 on: August 19, 2011, 12:10:21 am »
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Care to elaborate why?  Considering I top the scoreboards of nearly every Battle server match and Strategus battle, I think its pretty decent..

Well, you would do even better with a good build. That build is bad.
I just don't see why you would get 24 agility just to get 8 riding. You don't really need more than the requirement for the horse you want to use.
Also, why get IF before maxing athletics or even shield?
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