FCC vs Northern Empire

[Thokan]

You call it a battle list. We call it Order 66 

[Blondin]

What i find funny is that everybody was telling in last strat that they will remember action of clans, drz was at war against fallen, pub crawl, templars, traitors and all the shit.

Finaly everybody attack the only clan who did not a fuckin thing in last strat!!

Backstab your opponents, attack everywhere, be without honor (or honour) and ppl will respect abd fear you.
Do nothing and show some weakness, you will be slaugthered!

[Rikthor]

What i find funny is that everybody was telling in last strat that they will remember action of clans, drz was at war against fallen, pub crawl, templars, traitors and all the shit.

Finaly everybody attack the only clan who did not a fuckin thing in last strat!!

Backstab your opponents, attack everywhere, be without honor (or honour) and ppl will respect abd fear you.
Do nothing and show some weakness, you will be slaugthered!

This is somewhat accurate but at the same time not really.

FCC - Wanted a good fight for example
Fallen - Were tired of being told to watch their backs by members of NE and evidently of archer insults
DRZ - Not sure
LLJK - We have been at war them pretty much months before strat started and ATS actually came down to attack us when Shogunate and co tried to wipe us out.

So each clan or alliance has their own reasons for doing things, not just because they saw ATS/NE as weak before the attacks started. I would assume most people/clans saw ATS/NE as rather strong opponents to begin with.

[Tears of Destiny]

Yup, the NE before this mess started was a formidable foe.

[partyboy]

Yes they sure were formidable before any battles against other clans happened

[hotcobbler]

When did NE tell Fallen to watch their backs?

[Gash]

What i find funny is that everybody was telling in last strat that they will remember action of clans, drz was at war against fallen, pub crawl, templars, traitors and all the shit.

Finaly everybody attack the only clan who did not a fuckin thing in last strat!!

Backstab your opponents, attack everywhere, be without honor (or honour) and ppl will respect abd fear you.
Do nothing and show some weakness, you will be slaugthered!

Frankly, I'm speechless.  Blondin hit the nail on the head.

I got back from a 4-day trip to find just about every clan marching towards us for..... ???  I can understand LLJK and to an extent Fallen...  but BRD? DRZ? CHAOS? and the horde of other vulture-clans taking advantage of this cluster-fuck?

We held good relations with just about every clan nearby. We didn't pick sides during the mercs vs BRD when asked out of respect for both - and now we're getting attacked? lmao. Guess we'll pick a side next time and wipe out a faction. Screw honor and reputation right? Its always easier on the internet to ignore those.

Yes, Fallen has always been a big clan south of us.  I would have love to see an eventual war go out against them and their vassals...  or even now with this random BRD (FCC) versus us... but what we got right now, 10+ clans piling up on the vulture bandwagon because we've taken loses...  that's just fucken low - I know war is hell - but the balance of power just flew right out the fucken window on this one lmao.

NE wasn't a formidable foe before this mess started, we we're still building up, minding our own business, trying to re-claim what we had before the wipe. We have good soldiers and we calculate our steps properly to make no mistake.  Then, out of fucken no where, former trade partners, former defensive pact partners, and former friends decide to stomp right in - opening the door to vultures and clans who claim, 'we just want a war, that's what strat is all about right?' - right, strat is about war, not slaughter...

Enjoy your 'war'  - and screw the star wars references, this is totally the ending of the 300 movie. lol

What's the next move? the lot of you draw straws and the clan with the shortest one gets stomped on by all the others simultaneously?

[Warcat]

One thing that I still don't get though, is why no one has even been hired for the battles. Even in a lost cause I can't imagine ever doing anything other than fighting to the last man. Was actually looking forward to the fights againist TS last night. I remember when Templars were getting stomped on, they still hired a few random peasants to defend their villages for free.

[CrazyCracka420]

You sir...are an idiot.

It's a game forum, I post at work.  I'm an idiot for posting obvious logic/strategy that a 3rd grader could predict?  Fallen and their allies to our south and to our west have obviously been in cahoots for a long time for this coordinated attack to take place.  Me posting the obvious on a game forum isn't what directed half of the strategus world to attack our empire.

You want to talk about idiots, lets go over some Northern Empire failed decision making since this strategus has been out for a month.

1)  Fallen attacks bhulaban very early on, instead of attacking their forces and wiping them out, we allow them to retreat and we pay them back troops for their losses.
2)  and 3) Two separate times we let our enemies retreat with their troops because we captured their spawn point instead of bleeding their troops dry (that's two failures in one post).
4)  Hospitallers gives you thousands of troops and we fight a battle without the necessary equipment to finish the battle (at rebache), not to mention a complete lack of in game-organization or leadership.

I'm not saying that had we not done these things that our fate would be any different, but our Northern Empire has had many failings from the very start of strategus, despite many a grumblings from the foot soldiers (and outright disagreement with decisions like bhulaban in the first week of strat).

*EDIT*  hopefully this is just beta as the name implies and that the devs are trying to make things more intuitive and player friendly (as well as fixing some game mechanics that get brought up during the testing).  if worst comes to worst i'll pack up my pieces and merc until strat map is re-wiped and a new version comes out.

[hotcobbler]

One thing that I still don't get though, is why no one has even been hired for the battles. Even in a lost cause I can't imagine ever doing anything other than fighting to the last man. Was actually looking forward to the fights againist TS last night. I remember when Templars were getting stomped on, they still hired a few random peasants to defend their villages for free.

Kind of hard for NA clans to fight battles in the middle of the day on a monday. Many of us hold these things called "jobs."

[CrazyCracka420]

I think he's talking about last night, I'm assuming it has to do with strategy.   But who the hell really knows any more.  I'd still be willing to fight as a naked peasant (even if you aren't going to reinforce that particular village with more troops, money or equipment).

[Zanthos]

One thing that I still don't get though, is why no one has even been hired for the battles. Even in a lost cause I can't imagine ever doing anything other than fighting to the last man. Was actually looking forward to the fights againist TS last night. I remember when Templars were getting stomped on, they still hired a few random peasants to defend their villages for free.

Remember the number of clans and resources being thrown at us all at once. It is more of a strategic decision. It is quite hard to fund gold and troops to fight battles on all fronts and actually have a fighting chance. If we have the choice of being both outnumbered and outgunned in 5 different battles versus having a fighting chance in 1 battle... we'll choose the 1 battle.

[Visus]

Can you guys at least tell us when you will make this last stand? I hate signing up for battles and being disappointed.

[hotcobbler]

Boohoo. Somehow I have a hard time feeling bad about that. I wonder why...

[vinnytk]

Fallen, LLJK, and a few more I'm sure.

IIRC ATS and NE declared war on us or does that fact mess up your sob story?