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Re: Long spears aka pikes
« Reply #120 on: August 12, 2011, 08:47:17 am »
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so your point is irrevelant because pikemen can't use shields in the first place derp.

Lol, they can use shields just as much as any other class. I don't see why pikemen have a lesser disposition to use shields then anyone else. Ok, they have to drop their weapon. Well any other 2h or polearm that uses both hands have to sheathe it or drop it. Eitheir both men effectively disarmed themselves. I don't see how anyone has an advantage over the other. And to try and put any logic into this to begin with when the fuck did this become a "2h vs pikemen who is the most effective shielder".... you must be a big fucking moron to try and make this a plug into any persons head, as a "disadvantaged pikeman"

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You can facehug everyone else, BUT SOMEONE WITH A PIKE IS WORSE BECAUSE OF 1 ATTACK DIRECTION

You dont use the pike 1v1, you can but as I can understand from your other post you are mentally retarded, bringing another polearm, 1h or 2h for such an encounter will probably make your brain melt.

Apparently teamwork is lame, have you ever tried using a pike? Its the most useless fucking thing in a melee battle, but vs cav and vs longspear users its pretty much a hard counter, unless you're completely inept at warband. You can drop it after you're done with it, pulling out your real melee weapon to kill.

Now, this is where your post goes completely into a black hole and I dont know wheter you're trying to lobby for a weapon that is completely ridiculous.

If you stand behind team mates, and effectively stab through them with a ghostly wooden shaft of dooming polestagging and you fail at it "you are completely inept at warband". I can do this myself on my 2h character, effectively getting kills without ever beeing in danger of ever dying, getting hurt or probably even shot. How this a "team work weapon" I can accept beeing overrun by teamwork by a bunch 1h'ers, 2h'ers, polemen or throwers or any mix of those. But weapons that can pass through walls, team mates, their shields and fucking walls by stabbing in the air then moving the mouse town is not fkn teamwork, I call that exploiting a serious mistake in warbands engine collision detection (whatever you wanna fucking call it). Because of this, I question if the weapon should have be added in the first place. Long spear is that not enough? Hell by your logic it IS TWICE AS GOOD. TWO ATTACK DIRECTION!!!111!!1!!!! OMIGAWD.

As a 2h, you can carry a fucking shield around to not get shot up, Pikemen are pretty much walking blobs of free kills for archers, while 2h can solo dodge/shield from arrow.
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Re: Long spears aka pikes
« Reply #121 on: August 12, 2011, 11:08:43 am »
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Lol, they can use shields just as much as any other class. I don't see why pikemen have a lesser disposition to use shields then anyone else. Ok, they have to drop their weapon. Well any other 2h or polearm that uses both hands have to sheathe it or drop it. Eitheir both men effectively disarmed themselves. I don't see how anyone has an advantage over the other. And to try and put any logic into this to begin with when the fuck did this become a "2h vs pikemen who is the most effective shielder".... you must be a big fucking moron to try and make this a plug into any persons head, as a "disadvantaged pikeman"
Siiem, you noobwegian, you fail so hard...
Approach an archer/crossbowman? Oh, but you dropped your pike/long spear half a map ago...

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Re: Long spears aka pikes
« Reply #122 on: August 12, 2011, 11:18:02 am »
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Siiem, you noobwegian, you fail so hard...
Approach an archer/crossbowman? Oh, but you dropped your pike/long spear half a map ago...

Why drop your pike/long spear vs an archer/crossbowman... more reach even easier to hit him. I still don't see the issue.

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Re: Long spears aka pikes
« Reply #123 on: August 12, 2011, 11:23:59 am »
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Siiem, just... go...

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Re: Long spears aka pikes
« Reply #124 on: August 12, 2011, 11:27:42 am »
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Siiem, just... go...

So you're admitting that you cannot take down an archer with with a bow drawn while you have a long spear? Interesting Ptx, impressive even for you :lol:

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Re: Long spears aka pikes
« Reply #125 on: August 12, 2011, 11:29:40 am »
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Spearman: see archer, drop spear, put up a shield, go to archer, arrive at archer, put down shield, where's my weapon?
2handed: see archer, sheath 2h, put up a shield, go to archer, arrive at archer, put down shield, slice archer in half.
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Re: Long spears aka pikes
« Reply #126 on: August 12, 2011, 11:32:34 am »
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Spearman: see archer far away, drop pike, put up a shield, go to archer, arrive at archer, put down shield, where's my weapon?
2h: see archer far away, sheath 2h, put up a shield, go to archer, arrive at archer, put down shield, slice archer in half.

Legolas. But according to all the archery whine threads about projectile speed sucking it should not be a problem blocking an arrow from afar? Pike, 1 slot shield 1h. Issue?
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Re: Long spears aka pikes
« Reply #127 on: August 12, 2011, 11:37:05 am »
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Siiem, i don't know what 22nd did to you, but i don't like it :(

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Re: Long spears aka pikes
« Reply #128 on: August 12, 2011, 11:38:38 am »
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Siiem, i don't know what 22nd did to you, but i don't like it :(

Personal insults, thats when you know you're getting down to the good stuff.

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Re: Long spears aka pikes
« Reply #129 on: August 12, 2011, 11:38:48 am »
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Legolas. But according to all the archery whine threads about projectile speed sucking it should not be a problem blocking an arrow from afar? Pike, 1 slot shield 1h. Issue?

LOLWUT

Spearman: see archer, drop spear, put up a shield, go to archer, arrive at archer, put down shield, where's my weapon?
2handed: see archer, sheath 2h, put up a shield, go to archer, arrive at archer, put down shield, slice archer in half.

Cmon Siiem, you can do better
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Re: Long spears aka pikes
« Reply #130 on: August 12, 2011, 11:45:01 am »
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Pike, 1h shield. Unless you can't read the "unsheatable" part you should have some foresight enough to realize maybe I need a backup weapon, just in case. Even then, I would not waste those 3 extra attribute points for shield on either.  :P but if the unsheatable part is such a big fucking game breaker, give us the old system back with long spear popping out of anuses.

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Re: Long spears aka pikes
« Reply #131 on: August 12, 2011, 11:52:17 am »
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Are you trying to make some sort of a point or are you just posting for the sake of posting? Really, man, stop for a second there...

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Re: Long spears aka pikes
« Reply #132 on: August 12, 2011, 11:54:59 am »
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What I was trying to explain is that 2handers have it easier versus archers than long spearmen (considering both have shield skill).

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Re: Long spears aka pikes
« Reply #133 on: August 12, 2011, 07:50:46 pm »
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Re: Long spears aka pikes
« Reply #134 on: August 12, 2011, 11:31:31 pm »
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Let me get  this straight, the last few pages we are argueing about a specialist against horses not being able to tackle archers?

Strange, having a massive edge against one class means you have a penalty against another class... this... this is intriguing...
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