We all need some lovin, and nerfing.

[Mamachew]

Look, I'm starting to get tired of seeing all these Nerf/Buff posts.

Yes, your class now sucks.

Yes, everyone else's class now sucks.

Deal with it. Figure it out.

Everyone without shields hates the archers. Archers think they need some buffs. Crossbows think they need to be able to 1 hit people through shields. 2 handers think they need to be faster spammers than 1 handers. Cavalry think their horses need to cost less.

I'll let you all in on a little secret each class is designed to have perks and drawbacks. End o story.

2 handers... you don't have a shield? Too bad you're in the open.
Throwing inaccurate? Good thing you can 1 hit people.
Cav die to quick? Too bad you're trying to run down archers and peasants with pole arms.

Steps to building a character and playing cRPG:

1) choose what you like; weigh pros and cons and stick with it
2) don't complain; yes you do die from time to time.
3) play game
4) have fun

[The_Newer_Wind]

True, True. I did this kind of post a while back, noone hardly listens. (They dont want to be proven wrong) So good luck with this one.

[Dravic]

Everything good, but are you archer? Try to shoot someone, when you hardly get your bow. yea, its hard, isnt it? And im not talking about dmg, cause it is normal, but shot speed... can you watch some videos of archers competition? Please, do that, then come back.

How fast arrow got to target? Did archer had to aim in sky to shot at target 25m from him?

What are your feelings?

[Mamachew]

I am an archer, and yes it sucks. But just learn how to shoot again... Figure out what doesn't work, and don't do that. Everyone thinks someone else needs a nerf and they need a buff.

[SalmonGod]

Yes, every play style is supposed to have pros and cons.  Balance is when every class has pros and cons of equal gravity to every other class.  Yes, there is a rock/paper/scissors element to class balance, and this is fine. 

People complain because they believe that one class or another is too underpowered or overpowered to participate in that game of rock/paper/scissors.  When rock is smashing through paper or scissors are lightsabers, you have a balance issue and imbalanced games are not fun. 

The huge forum debates erupt when people disagree about these issues.  So long as the participants in these debates are mature and honest about it, they are a good thing.  They help to determine if scissors really are lightsabers, and need to be toned down.  No, not everyone is mature or honest, but this is no reason to discourage debate or ignore balance issues.

[Ando]

All should be done same as the native single player..with the experience related to this kind.

[Radix]

agree. But still xbows sux the most from all ranged now and I feel unloved cose of that, but yeah I do agree to wht ur saying.

[RandomDude]

True, True. I did this kind of post a while back, noone hardly listens. (They dont want to be proven wrong) So good luck with this one.

its not about being proven wrong its more about "hey im using a shield as 2h and so are 1 handers but look we're still dying in our hundreds to the apparently "under powered" support class that is archery

[Gorath]

its not about being proven wrong its more about "hey im using a shield as 2h and so are 1 handers but look we're still dying in our hundreds to the apparently "under powered" support class that is archery

This man has a good point.

[DrKronic]

Hey forget agincourt I just watched Rambo and lord of the rings and I think we need to change the animation so you can fire two shots at once and where are my explosive arrows?

[Gorath]

and where are my explosive arrows?

Oh don't get me started on those.  I've been wanting flaming arrows for a long time now, something to use firebombs for (specialty arrows).

[Mouse]

Balance is when every class has pros and cons of equal gravity to every other class.

The last part is incorrect, FYI.

[Beleidiger]

its not about being proven wrong its more about "hey im using a shield as 2h and so are 1 handers but look we're still dying in our hundreds to the apparently "under powered" support class that is archery

Woot Support Class?I dont wana Play a Support Class and how becomes only the Archer is 1 of this"Support Classes"!

I just wana make Kills with my "Support Class" like an Archer would do it in Real Live!

Its not like i like to be an OverPowered Archer but degenerate him to an "Support Class" ho can only Hurt People a bit or need 20 Arrows to hit someone or Team Damage (when he shoots into an Meele Fight to support someone) because the Arrow is way to slow in not in my mind!

I think somewhere out there is a Middleway!

[Tungsten]

2 handers... you don't have a shield? Too bad you're in the open

This is generally why 2handers want to be able to spam. No shield for auto blocking like a shield which makes feinting to draw an attack so you can parry and swing while they're recovering way harder. Old Balbaroth was a hard lesson in learning to block until you died because his shield came up so quickly and he swung as fast/faster than you.

Not saying it should be like that, but it's a legitimate point as parrying or chambering is much harder than just rmb.

[Ganon]

Throwing is not inaccurate if you put enough wpf in it and even if it was it should not 1shot armored str characters. So no, not everything is fine, this is just what people say when they know their class is OP and about to get nerfed.