QQ about armor.

[Paul]

The armor changes have really made the longbow the only significantly worthwhile bow.  I like using other bows, but the cut damage means it takes half again as many arrows to kill someone as it used too, while longbows and all xbows can kill even easier than before.

Bows and crossbows are not much affected by the armor changes. They basicly use the old parameter thanks to a little trick we managed to pull off and should behave like prepatch damage-wise. Sorry if I spoiled the usual making-shit-up though.

[Casimir]

plenty of people glance off my armor...

the changes are definitely better for heavy armor than before.

[Greziz]

I just added a pole.

[Tears of Destiny]

I just added a pole.

Is it propping up the poll?
(I jest I jest! I still love you)

[Cyclopsided]

I'd be up for making sweet spots a lot more important, and to make hilt-slashing glance.
but to leave the soak/reduce in place. If that is even possible, who knows.

Glances should be determined more by skill, and If I can move out of your sweet spots and in the opposite direction of where your swing started, I should be able to make you glance. I wore some super heavy armor today and people rarely glanced; I did get their damage lowered due to my footwork, but those were huge mistakes by their part that should have glanced.

[Teeth]

I think glancing is one of those features in the list of polestun and spamming. It should be there but only when you hit at the very end or very beginning of your swing. Less glancing is a great thing. You can have your glances back when I get major spam back.

[LordSnow]

I think glancing is one of those features in the list of polestun and spamming. It should be there but only when you hit at the very end or very beginning of your swing. Less glancing is a great thing. You can have your glances back when I get major spam back.

THE NINJA TALK. Piss off with your agi build, the logic want that YOU glance on plate armor. Try pierce or cut a plate armor with a knife or a scythe. Try to hurt an armoured guy with a piece of wood call staff. Plate armor are underpowered. Lot of malus for nearly no adventage. And each patch it get worst than before.

[MadJackMcMad]

THE NINJA TALK. Piss off with your agi build, the logic want that YOU glance on plate armor. Try pierce or cut a plate armor with a knife or a scythe. Try to hurt an armoured guy with a piece of wood call staff. Plate armor are underpowered. Lot of malus for nearly no adventage. And each patch it get worst than before.

Well, using a Langes Messer with 87 2h and 5 PS, I had to hit Phyrex and his 70+ armour twelve times to kill him (no chambering, optimal range, stationary, chest hits).  I am okay with that, as only one of those hits glanced.  You are still quite capable of jumping into a cluster of enemies and spam while wearing plate.

[pecores_timotheysnow]

87 is very low wpf,5ps is not very high and what armour are you using?

[MadJackMcMad]

87 is very low wpf,5ps is not very high and what armour are you using?

Kaftan.

[Ninja_Khorin]

Plate must be buffed. My tincan alt still can't spam his foes properly.

Better than my ninja, though. ;)

[Digglez]

would be cool if armor was ablative and lost effectiveness the more hits you took.  than you could jack soak back up to original or higher levels

[Teeth]

THE NINJA TALK. Piss off with your agi build, the logic want that YOU glance on plate armor. Try pierce or cut a plate armor with a knife or a scythe. Try to hurt an armoured guy with a piece of wood call staff. Plate armor are underpowered. Lot of malus for nearly no adventage. And each patch it get worst than before.

Ehm, both a knife and a scythe are effective piercing weapons. And a staff is a fine weapon to hurt someone in plate, bang against his helmet until hes unconcious, although a heavier weapon would do the trick better. And sorry for being an agi build, I can't help it that I stay true to the most fun way to play for me instead of going the easy strength route.

Do you like to get spammed? Probably not, I don't like to glance. When I spam you, you can't hit me. When I glance on you, I can't hit you. Spamming and glancing are comparable gimmicks. You dont want spam, I dont want constant glancing.

The new armor system is great that you have less of those moments that you die because you glance, you won't hurt the guy in plate much, but atleast he does get interrupted. Because when you glance your opponent gets a free hit. Also I haven't noticed any difference in my amount of glancing, I still glance when I attack at the arse end of my swing and thats how it should be.

[Greziz]

I don't mind spam. I mind pole stun. I used to deal with spammers I would block until I was sure I could make his next hit glance or chamber him. Spam is still there I just can't cause a glance anymore.

[Dezilagel]

I don't mind spam. I mind pole stun. I used to deal with spammers I would block until I was sure I could make his next hit glance or chamber him. Spam is still there I just can't cause a glance anymore.

Causing a glance is still perfectly possible.

They just reduced the amount of random glances happening.