Hiding Polearms While Arching

[Okkam]

Just for 50K I can make your pole(or 2H) invisible.
Seriously.

[Tears of Destiny]

Just for 50K I can make your pole(or 2H) invisible.
Seriously.

Changing textfiles, yup.

[Chaos]

Say the ex-RS clan that bitched whenever someone shot them or threw something at them because they wanted to play without a shield, therefore everyone cater to their e-peens?

Right. Interesting moments in the TS. 

The point is, 1st person is unusually limited in view.

I consider this example beneficial to my argument because the shieldless infantry would be adapting to the game by taking shields with them or running around like epileptic chickens, like switching to first person view for pole-archers. Although honestly I don't care that much, I secretly just want everyone to play in first person view   

[Bobthehero]

So do I, we shall succeed one day Chaos!

[Grey]

1st: Polearm + bow : greedy beyond belief. Archers dont carry poles, or 2handers. Only greedy people do that. Archers kill people from range. To be completely honest, hybridization is admitting you arent good enough at anything to rely on it 100%

2nd: Theres SO many reasons to swap into 1st person: Shooting thru windows, down from roofs, thru fences, in a crowd of teammates, to name a few. Not doing it is so severely limiting yourself as to be....well, ridiculous.

And all the tunnel vision arguments are null and void, since the Viewchange button WORKS BOTH WAYS: press it once to go to 1st person and then again to go back to 3rd.

Or if it REALLY bothers you, and you MUST have a huge melee weapon as an archer, just edit the backstored items out in your game files...

[Bobthehero]

I'd rather get beaten up in melee by an hybrid archer than get kitted for a year or three by most of them, runners archer are the worst plague of this mod, after the upkeep.

[Grey]

if you cant catch them dont chase them....if you let yourself be kited its your own fault, also those who have VERY high atheletics must have low PD so their arrows dont hurt. Honestly, Im so tired of people complaining that Rock beats Scissors...when you play to someone elses strong suit, dont be surprised they win.

[Dezilagel]

"Don't let yourself be kited", then what am I supposed to do? Camp 'till flag? Let the archer bore everyone to death? Go watch some porn while the round turns into a draw?

Archers always say that they "are not made for melee, they're support!" Tell me how running for 3 mins is supporting your team.

The most effective archers, from what I've seen, are the ones that stick fairly close to the melee body, providing support where needed with high efficency (able to take out the ranged threatening the main body while also being able to provide high-accuracy close-range support). A defining quality of these archers are also that they do not fear going into melee if needed, to continue doing their job.

Those are the archers you want on your team, and the ones you want on the enemy team as well since they don't delay/bore/force flags/do other g@y shit.

The ones who camp 500 m away from the main body, taking potshots at the enemy from atop of their tower then proceeding to run for 3 mins after their team gets slaughtered (because they didn't get proper archer support!) noone likes to play with OR against.

Time to le wake up.

[Grey]

"Don't let yourself be kited", then what am I supposed to do? Camp 'till flag? Let the archer bore everyone to death? Go watch some porn while the round turns into a draw?

Archers always say that they "are not made for melee, they're support!" Tell me how running for 3 mins is supporting your team.

The most effective archers, from what I've seen, are the ones that stick fairly close to the melee body, providing support where needed with high efficency (able to take out the ranged threatening the main body while also being able to provide high-accuracy close-range support). A defining quality of these archers are also that they do not fear going into melee if needed, to continue doing their job.

Those are the archers you want on your team, and the ones you want on the enemy team as well since they don't delay/bore/force flags/do other g@y shit.

The ones who camp 500 m away from the main body, taking potshots at the enemy from atop of their tower then proceeding to run for 3 mins after their team gets slaughtered (because they didn't get proper archer support!) noone likes to play with OR against.

Time to le wake up.

I didnt say that the KITERS are RIGHT or doing a good job...I dont like them either, but by chasing them you qualify their build. Camp till flag? if that beats them, YES, do it. Or hide and hope they bet bored, come looking, and you can catch them close. MY POINT was simply: If you chase the archer but cant catch him, DONT CHASE HIM, if you dont play into their hands then they will have to stop playing that way....

[Miley]

1st: Polearm + bow : greedy beyond belief. Archers dont carry poles, or 2handers. Only greedy people do that. Archers kill people from range. To be completely honest, hybridization is admitting you arent good enough at anything to rely on it 100%

2nd: Theres SO many reasons to swap into 1st person: Shooting thru windows, down from roofs, thru fences, in a crowd of teammates, to name a few. Not doing it is so severely limiting yourself as to be....well, ridiculous.

And all the tunnel vision arguments are null and void, since the Viewchange button WORKS BOTH WAYS: press it once to go to 1st person and then again to go back to 3rd.

Or if it REALLY bothers you, and you MUST have a huge melee weapon as an archer, just edit the backstored items out in your game files...

Hmm, maybe you like doing both? If I like using a polearm instead of a one hander, there are pros and cons. If I like using a one hander instead of a two hander, there are also pros and cons. Who cares if archers didn't carry polearms and two-handers in real life. This mod isn't realistic at all, and this is cRPG. We should be able to customize our characters how we want, right? This mod has lost a lot of it's creativity since the start.

As for the first person thing. Yeah, you can use it, but once you're used to third person, it's hard to use first person. You have to aim differently. It was just a suggestion that won't hurt anybody. I don't know why people are getting so defensive.

[Grey]

Cause you are being silly: Its not hard to swap between them, you cant tell me it is, I shoot fine with both, saying ITS SO DIFFERENT is being silly, but ALSO we have all recommended to you JUST EDIT YOUR FILE: Google how to do it, it wont take you long and isnt complicated, and then you have what you want.

[Miley]

Cause you are being silly: Its not hard to swap between them, you cant tell me it is, I shoot fine with both, saying ITS SO DIFFERENT is being silly, but ALSO we have all recommended to you JUST EDIT YOUR FILE: Google how to do it, it wont take you long and isnt complicated, and then you have what you want.

Well obviously people are different. And it will probably not show the polearm when attacking either. I'm not even doing archery + polearm.

I only see one person who recommended it, not all.

[Tears of Destiny]

I don't edit it because it would be an unneeded surprise to hide other archer weapons when the opponent has it on their back. I don't want to fight an enemy archer and think he is unarmed (must be carrying three quivers right?) only to find out that the guy whips out a quarterstaff... Hell no.

[Miley]

I don't edit it because it would be an unneeded surprise to hide other archer weapons when the opponent has it on their back. I don't want to fight an enemy archer and think he is unarmed (must be carrying three quivers right?) only to find out that the guy whips out a quarterstaff... Hell no.

But you try punching them to death either way!

[Grey]

Also knowing I can batter the guy whos rushing me in melee takes away the excitement: I miss this shot, Im dead! I like that feeling. Concentrates my aim!