Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

[Tot.]

About voices: just FYI Jarl of Stormcloaks - whatever his name was - is played by Vladimir Kulich. You know, the classic viking archetype from 13th Warrior, minus the plate armor in the movie.


Anyways... Elder Scroll games are dull and shallow when it comes to actual quest depthness and the possibility of the only substitute of actual roleplaying in a computer game - making moral choices. It might be that my guy didnt have enough speech for it buts its rather idiotic that the skill which allows you to actually roleplay some type of a character requires you to sell shitload of stuff to level it up enough for anything worthwhile.
95% of quests are pretty much D&D edition 1, go there, kill the bad guy, bring something back. Look at the main quests line. Bad guy threatening the world, the chosen hero cant defeat him without an artifact, learn artifacts location from a sage, go grab the artifact and kill the bad guy. And thats it. Classic heroic fantasy story stereotype, unfortunatelly.

Skyrim is really good looking, has epic (although really short and straightforward) storyline and semi-open world. Not much of actual RPG game in here to be honest, it's more an adventure game. Oh, right, about open world - what really pisses me off is that some of the NPCs are immortal. You cant kill most of the quest givers. You cant kill children either. I know it's a console game and PG12+ but seriously, it could've been handled better than just invulnerability.

I'd really like to see Planescape Torment remade with this engine. That would be something. Even Baldurs would do.

Summing up Skyrim, I liked Dragon Age more. More actual roleplaying, even if it was all scripted and linear.

[B3RS3RK]

Dragon age was so fucking stupid.How dare you even compare it to Skyrim!

And of course are the most quests about going in a dungeon and recovering something/Killing somebody and then returning.There isnt much else you could do.
Oh and about the immortality: How would you like it if Dragons ate the Guy you just made a Quest for?Oh and the next Guy you wanted to do a Quest for is eaten, too, Sorry Lad!Not to forget the Guy who gives you al the quests inside a guild.Dead.Take a break from that Quest line.

That would suck so unbelievably.All NPCs that arent important for Quests are killable.Even some that ARE.Happened to me countless times that I killed a Guy or a Girl going with me with a Fireball, accidentaly.

[Tot.]

Oh and about the immortality: How would you like it if Dragons ate the Guy you just made a Quest for?Oh and the next Guy you wanted to do a Quest for is eaten, too, Sorry Lad!Not to forget the Guy who gives you al the quests inside a guild.Dead.Take a break from that Quest line.

That would suck so unbelievably.A

Do better to save the next ones then. You obviously never played Fallout*. Unfortunately Skyrim is exactly such kindergarden which doesnt allow you to get hurt in any way or to actually fuck up something for good.



*clarification: Fallout = Fallout 1 and 2, not these new ones which are Elder Scrolls in Fallout world.


PS. Perfect example why npcs immortality sucks. While going through mountains at night I encountered some sort of scouting party next to a bonfire, I ambushed them, shot all before they realized where I even was. Or at least they all were laying down with arrows in them. I had absolutely no desire to get involved in anything, just to kill them, grab the gear and move on. Unfortunately, gods of Skyrim in their wisdom saw fit not to grant me that little rogue wish and made one of these soldiers An Immortal Questgiver. Right now he's in front of me on his knees, recovering from dozens of arrows I put in him. I'm wondering if when he gets back on his feet he's going to attack me and kill me because I can't kill him or if he's going to ignore that I killed seven of his comrades and still will be eager to share His Important Quest with me.

[SepChu]

 

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[Xant]

You cant kill most of the quest givers. You cant kill children either. I know it's a console game and PG12+ but seriously, it could've been handled better than just invulnerability.

It's actually rated 18+. Equivalent of M in America, AFAIK, which is basically 17+.

[Vibe]

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513 damage wut? Is it because of level scaling?

[Noctivagant]

Fuck Nords, Fuck Empire, Fuck Thalmor

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Orcs ftw

"Orc armor Ugly and strong, like the people who forged it. "

[Xant]

513 damage wut? Is it because of level scaling?

No, it's because weapons and armors get horribly broken if you (ab)use 100 alchemy and 100 smithing to make a "bonus to smithing" loop..

I'd recommend against it, takes all the fun out of combat when you 1 hit your enemies. To each his own, though.

[Keshian]

I'd really like to see Planescape Torment remade with this engine. That would be something.

This 1000 times over.  Can't imagine a better game to get redone with better graphics.  Your hopelessly scarred body wandering around with a talking floating skull and succubi and angels.  I don't know why someone hasn't done this already or at least made a sequel.  That was a game with a storyline.

[Vibe]

No, it's because weapons and armors get horribly broken if you (ab)use 100 alchemy and 100 smithing to make a "bonus to smithing" loop..

I'd recommend against it, takes all the fun out of combat when you 1 hit your enemies. To each his own, though.

Ah yeah, that sure takes the fun out of the game.

[Anal Bleeding]

Some of the armors look like Lineage II.
What a piece of crap.

[Overdriven]

Lol a miner just said he was interested in marrying me because I'm wearing an amulet of mara...I'm pretty sure my characters a guy to 

They kind of sound like McBain/Rainier Wolfcastle from the Simpsons:

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Haha o I forgot about that guy. Very true 

Summing up Skyrim, I liked Dragon Age more. More actual roleplaying, even if it was all scripted and linear.

Why o why do people keep comparing linear RPGs to Skyrim? You can't do it. Just like Witcher 2 (compared in a different thread), Dragon Age was an awesome game, but it's not open world, follows a very linear story line, albeit with a few moral choices a long the way (which still pretty much bring about relatively the same ending). They are all amazing games. But Skyrim is a completely different style of RPG to those two. Whilst Dragon Age and Witcher 2 are very similar.

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[LordBerenger]

CBA go to UESP or read books but to sum it up short.

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Why does those elfs or whatever hate Talos so much? Also is there any mention about Akatosh and the events that happened in Lolblivion and/or Morrowind?

Yeah gogo ahead and spoil if you know why

[B3RS3RK]

I think they hate Talos cause he was the one that founded the septim Bloodline fo the Dragonborn or something.

btw: Epic Ebony boots and gauntlets now, Gloves enchanted with +51 magicka

Its so awesome.

[LordBerenger]

I think they hate Talos cause he was the one that founded the septim Bloodline fo the Dragonborn or something.

btw: Epic Ebony boots and gauntlets now, Gloves enchanted with +51 magicka

Its so awesome.

Fuckers, but Talos was from the beginning a Mortal that became a Divine one? Right?


Also, what was that thing about you all saying that Giants and Dragons being all powerful? I'm playing on Adept and when i face dragons i just put on Fire Resist 30 percent for 60 seconds and use my Dwarven Bow with Dwarven Arrows/Orcish and proceed to spam fire Draggy till it's dead which isn't that hard/long. (that's what she said).


And Giants, just run up a cliff spam shoot spam shoot and spam shoot. Jump down cliff, spam shoot, run, look back, shoot and repeat process.


Will there be stronger enemies than those?

Actually i dunno but i met an enemy i couldn't take down that easily and that raped me in 2 hits and was rather fast. And that was a Mamooth lol.

But besides Mamooth? Anything stronger than Draggys/Giants?