Remember Buillin...

[CrazyCracka420]

There is more afoot than is let on.  Upon the conquest of Builin, the Order of the Lance immediately passed laws stating that the local Bards may only recite verses from Ser Justin, son of Beiber.  Furthermore, a new language has been enforced.  This bastardisation of the native Caladrian tongue commonly manifests in unnecessary omission of vowels, jumbling prepositions, and the addition of the word 'man' at the end of a question or statement.

Unnecessary omission of vowels?  I'd say using extra vowels is unnecessary.  Think of all the trees that could have been saved in the course of humanity if you gave up the extra (unnecessary) vowels.

The grey order is large, good luck against your oppressors.

[MadJackMcMad]

UNNCSSRY OMSSN OF VWLS? ID SY USNG EXTR VWLS IS UNNCSSRY. THNK OF AL TH TREES THT COULD HV BEEN SVD IN TH COURS OF HMNTY IF U GV UP TH EXTR UNNCSSRY VWLS

Corrected.

[22nd_King_Plazek]

Let me tell you a story...

So one day the OotL moved into Buillin, their diplomat was wise and came to talk to me. He requested that they move into Buillin and I told them this would be no problem so long as they would be willing to pay, with their loyalty by becoming a vassal. They agreed to do this with little hesitation and they had my blessing to rule the village with the support and protection of the 22nd, with the promise of new territories being awarded in exchange for their support at wartime and even freedom when they are large enough to stand alone as our equals and allies.

This went well, Lord Voren seemed the reasonable and diplomatic type, however he had to go on leave for just 3 days. A day after he left I was sent a message from the OotL leader, Tankmen, he informed me that they were no longer our vassal and declared their independence, with no regard for our agreement, nor any respect for the 22nd domination of this area.

That they now complain when we bring in our good friends the Grey order to help crush their rebellion is laughable. They declared their independance, they declined the protection of the 22nd and they steal our fief. They break a treaty made just 24 hours earlier.

This is the result of revolt. Annihilation.


We can release private discussion too:

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Lord Voren: Hey boss, I will not be able to make the 22nds battle, but you tihink Tankman could go just to represent us as allies?
Plazek: sure
Plazek: we will sign him up
Plazek: good job btw
Plazek: on taking buillin
Plazek: low casualties i hope?
Lord Voren: 0
Plazek: haha
Plazek: nice one
Lord Voren: Thanks, some of our guys are getting restless, anything for us to kill? [CHAOS]
Plazek: i sent them some PMs yesterday and they seem to be backing off some
Lord Voren: have you told them about us yet?
Plazek: not yet
Lord Voren: good
Lord Voren: give us the element of supprise when and if they do something stupid
Plazek: indeed
Plazek: also
Plazek: i will probably need to speak to you guys later
Plazek: about formalising our agreement
Plazek: as you should remember
Plazek: when we spoke of you holding buillin
Plazek: i said there would be possible things you might have to agree to
Plazek: vassalage/tribute and the like?
Lord Voren: indeed
Lord Voren: Well, I will be gone till sunday for my birthday, so if we need to do that now we can.
Plazek: ok
Plazek: well
Plazek: i will need to speak to my people
Plazek: to sort out the final version
Plazek: but for now
Plazek: i can tell you what soret of deal i will be wanting
Lord Voren: alright
Plazek: if you are prepared to be a vassal of the 22nd
Plazek: then you will get a similar deal to the ninja
Plazek: you will get our protection
Plazek: our support
Plazek: this includes
Plazek: rewarding you with fiefs
Plazek: in the event of winning them in wars
Plazek: and the POSSIBILITY
Plazek: of being granted a castle in our current area
Plazek: but do not take that to be a promise
Plazek: we have already handed out
Plazek: 5 villages
Plazek: 3 castles
Plazek: from our initial claims
Plazek: for diplomatic reasons
Plazek: but war rewards are assured
Plazek: so
Plazek: that is what you would get from us
Plazek: in exchange
Plazek: you would answer to us
Plazek: fight where we ask
Plazek: support us in wars
Plazek: and should we require it
Plazek: (we will not be unreasonable)
Plazek: provuide gold and troops
Plazek: we can go over details
Plazek: as specific as you like
Plazek: if you wish to make it a tight contract
Plazek: or leave it more open
Plazek: with ninja
Plazek: it is pretty open
Plazek: but that is because they know us
Plazek: and we know them
Plazek: obviously our clans are not so close
Plazek: so we may want a tighter contract
Plazek: i think that is
Plazek: the general idea
Plazek: sound reaosnable to you?
Lord Voren: Yeah, like you said, iron out the details, and we will make it final on sunday or monday upon my return
Lord Voren: Tankman knows little of diplomacy
Plazek: that is fine by me
Plazek: ther eis no rush
Plazek: so far
Plazek: you have prioven yourselves to be reasonable
Plazek: and of course
Plazek: should the rewards of wars
Plazek: prove to be great
Plazek: and you are able to gain a decent number of fiefs elsewhere
Plazek: you can be free of you8r vassalage one day
Plazek: with our blessing
Plazek: and be allies
Plazek: as equals
Plazek: so long as we get back our initial fiefs Smile
Plazek: ie
Plazek: buillin
Plazek: btw
Plazek: you may not be aware
Plazek: an army of den bitre
Plazek: appears to be approaching buillin
Plazek: you may wanna check that out Wink
Lord Voren: Oh, I have been
Lord Voren: unfortunatly though I cant find out ANYTHING on them
Lord Voren: other then everyone thought they were gone from last strat
Plazek: i will see what i can do
Lord Voren: Also, We upped our tax and scattered the ones who were in here so fair warning to you as well, they might scurry to kulum or more east
Plazek: ok
Plazek: good to know
Plazek: either way
Plazek: they will be dealt with
Plazek: if they do attack buillin
Plazek: and are able to beat you
Plazek: then should you agree to vassalage
Plazek: our first action will be retaking the village
Plazek: and giving it back tot he right fukl owners
Plazek: ie
Plazek: yourselves
Lord Voren: well, im going to tell you a secret
Lord Voren: Chaos treats us like 2nd hand citizens because we are not a LARGE clan, so they were "helping" us in the begining, insulting us but giving us some tips. In doing so, and after that scrim were we beat them, they lossend up a bit and they think we are on friendlly terms. We can use this, and give chaos false information
Plazek: cool
Plazek: well
Plazek: should it be required
Plazek: that could be useful Smile
Plazek: personally
Plazek: i like to try and be up front as much as possible
Plazek: and not resort to such sneaky tactics Tongue
Lord Voren: I have more information too, but I will wait, cant give it all up right away right? Tongue
Plazek: hehhe
Plazek: best keep an ace or few up your sleeve Wink
Plazek: anyway
Plazek: rest assured
Lord Voren: well, you should know now that we have no thought plan or anything to backstab you
Plazek: if you guys do agree to this vassalge deal
Plazek: you will have us at your back 100%
Lord Voren: All we want is reasurance
Plazek: we will honour our treaties tot he letter
Lord Voren: that you wont attack us
Plazek: as we always have
Plazek: and will put the wellbeing of the OotL on a level equal with 22nd and ninja
Plazek: you will be a client state of the 22nd
Plazek: but
Plazek: i like to think
Plazek: for a small faction
Plazek: it is worth it for the benefits Smile
Lord Voren: I think we will prove ourselves for you soon enough
Plazek: and as said
Plazek: should you seek independance
Plazek: then one day
Plazek: i am sure you will achieve it
Plazek: when you prove your abilities in battles against our wenemies Laughing

The day after:

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regretfully,

   I am sorry to say, but I and many of my Knight Lords have come to the conclusion that Vassal ship will not be beneficial further down the road, I also feel that we would be unable to fulfill our obligations to you as vassals, due to different time zone and EU ping. This is not a declaration of war nor do I want it to be, Id like to remain neutral or even still help you NA server wise. We again do not plan on starting war, and i wish you luck with defending Haen from Brothers in Arms, who sadly are EU so we would be unable to help, though im sure you wouldn't need it. Again sorry if this causes any disruption, but we entered vassal ship in haste, and in many of my Knight lords mouths it tasted ...Bitter



Sincerely,
Lance L Tankmen
Grand Master of the Order of the Lance
ex-White Knight     

[22nd_Hawk_Cmdr_Harlequin]

Have fun spreading some blood around, while we can afford that and will stronger your faction will be annihilated, lol 

That's what happens to those who does not keep the word given! Wahahah! 

[tankmen]

it seems vorren has done alot hasn't he, well,

Have fun spreading some blood around, while we can afford that and will stronger your faction will be annihilated, lol 

That's what happens to those who does not keep the word given! Wahahah! 

please post a thing about me in this? did i ever give my word? post where i admit vassalage? i talked once with plazek never did i swear it, as for back stabbed chaos, i was prepared to give them my 1700 troops to help them take a castle, but decided on glory in death. I didnt wish to be vassals( infact it even states vorren will iron it out)and had been working a lot lately IRL, after signing up for a battle and looking into it, i realized we had around the same amount of troops and had we wanted to take kulum, equal villages. But then again grey order does tend to tip the troops. Vorren did what every diplomat did offer up things to get what he thought best for his faction. So no i did not break my word, for i never gave it.


As to chaos, i have no comment for i do not know what vorren had been intending, or meant, he could just as easily given 22nd false info. But due to this "treachery" by vorren i will understand if you do not wish to help us.


Let there be blood regardless, let not the 22nd hide behind grey order, i know thats too much to ask, either way the armies grey order.

[Nemeth]

It's good to know that for OotL, "iron it out" means taking the fief that has been offered to them in exchange of vassalage and then refusing to become vassals.

 

[ManOfWar]

hmmm

[tankmen]

i planned on taking it regardless of what 22nd said, vorren went to talk to you guys, i went to work. Even so, did Denbrite not claim it too? what makes 22nd's claim greater? ah, grey order i forget....and thats why we are here, to oppose a snobbish kingdom who uses there allies to enforce their rule.

[22nd_King_Plazek]

Cut the crap Tankmen. Diplomats are here to make diplomatic agreements. If Voren was not authorized to make such treaties then why was he sent to make agreements with us?

Anyway let us look at this excerpt from your PM:

again sorry if this causes any disruption, but we entered vassal ship in haste,

It was your mistake that you wrongly assumed you were equal to us and decided to go back on your agreement. As I informed you in our discussion one of our greatest strengths is our diplomatic ties. Now you get to experience the protection and power of the 22nd that you could have had protecting you as you expanded to become an independent faction like I promised, but instead turned against you as we push you out.

You can accuse us of hiding behind our friends the Greys but trust me, we can live with having powerful friends. Problem is, you cant.

[DANK]

hmmm

I was appalled when I read what vorren wrote. None of this was discussed with our Knight Lords until after his conversations. I knew of the vassalege offer after we had already taken buillin, and never knew of any plans to back-stab.

Tankmen has been very clear with our Knight Lords that he wanted to be verbally open with his intent in Strategus this go around, and did not want to backstab anyone. (Our entire clan was shocked at what Vorren had written about Chaos).

[22nd_King_Plazek]

As to the question, what makes the 22nd claim greater?

Well I can tell you right now.

The fact that we will be the ones who hold Buillin at the end of this and the fact that you broke your agreement with us which gave you the right to take it in the first place.

[tankmen]

i say

Cut the crap Tankmen. Diplomats are here to make diplomatic agreements. If Voren was not authorized to make such treaties then why was he sent to make agreements with us?

Anyway let us look at this excerpt from your PM:

It was your mistake that you wrongly assumed you were equal to us and decided to go back on your agreement. As I informed you in our discussion one of our greatest strengths is our diplomatic ties. Now you get to experience the protection and power of the 22nd that you could have had protecting you as you expanded to become an independent faction like I promised, but instead turned against you as we push you out.

You can accuse us of hiding behind our friends the Greys but trust me, we can live with having powerful friends. Problem is, you cant.

that because it would of looked bad on me for saying vorren, i am clan leader but as i have stated i WORK, as to who holds it in the end, well in the end of the battle grey will hold it, but trust me, they will bleed so much that YOU will have to hope no one attacks you because grey cant cover your ass forever, and thats just it, do we disappear? do we never get troops again? no we can wait and bide our time, i recommend you always watch your borders in the future.... because we will be.

[22nd_King_Plazek]

Good to know.

All you should know is you squandered your one opportunity to work with me in Strategus. You showed us all your lack of integrity and honour and how little you value your word losing yourself a dedicated ally in the process. We have no use for you nor does anyone who values honesty.

No doubt one of our enemies will be more than willing to pick you up and use you in their schemes though, enjoy your "independance".

[tankmen]

again where did i break my honestly? or word? is vorren my voice? quit trying to paint me up as the bad guy, THERE IS NO BAD GUY ITS A GAME NOT A MOIVE  .

Good to know.

All you should know is you squandered your one opportunity to work with me in Strategus. You showed us all your lack of integrity and honour and how little you value your word losing yourself a dedicated ally in the process. We have no use for you nor does anyone who values honesty.

No doubt one of our enemies will be more than willing to pick you up and use you in their schemes though, enjoy your "independance".

id rather die than serve you, you are air headed IMO

[Kokosz]

West is crowded guys.You should search your "place" on East.