long spear, pike, lance and heavy lance

[tankmen]

i do not think these weapons should be able to block, they are the best support weapon in the game, go thru teammates and have an absurd hit box, i am talking about long spear but to nerf that you need to nerf pike, to nerf both of those you'd need to nerf the lances 

[Magikarp]

This is too much of a nerf for me, I'd rather see the long spear get less speed, so it retains the anti cav value, but gets nerfed versus infantry.

[Lordark]

well if the devs cant nerf speed there only 1 other logical choice.....

Keep the pike as a support weapon not a 245 reach war spear

[Beans]

This is too much of a nerf for me, I'd rather see the long spear get less speed, so it retains the anti cav value, but gets nerfed versus infantry.

You realize that even if it had a speed of 10 the players that dominate with the 90 degree turn, the scoop, or the helicopter would still dominate?

Speed of the weapon has no effect in that style, it just has to slowly accelerate forward at all from the thrust then the spin does the rest.

edit: wait a second doesn't speed have an effect on block speed? If it had slow speed maybe it couldn't block. Do weapon speeds work for blocking like shields speed?

[Joxer]

Yeah make it so that long spear users cant block  How bad have you guys gotten owned to cry about that?

[Tears of Destiny]

All I could think of when reading this thread was...

Did Walt_F4 team up with Chaos and do another pike night?

[Corrado_Decimo]

again. the long spear is a support weapon. low damage (26p thrust. at least 3 hits on a medium armored enemy with 6PS)and slow (81 speed). is useless in a 1vs1 but shine in a 3+vs3+ context. killing a lone pikeman is damn effortless. just facehug. who gets raped by a pikeman in a 1vs1 should really consider to quit and play facebook's farmville.

EDIT:

long spear/pike is not made for kills. is made for anti-cav and stun infantry. is really fine as it is.

[Lordark]

Pike needs a new name


Agility whores disco stick.

[Gheritarish le Loki]

Can we make shield unable to block my arrows, damm i shoot at the head but its stuck on the shield....

No seriously guys, do you realy have problem versus pike users?
On a one-on-one pike user have no chance, on a 2 vs 1 ok the pike is good, but are you asking to have advantage when facing 2 opponents?

[MadJackMcMad]

There is a small aesthetic niggle with getting stabbed by the pole rather than the point.

[Tears of Destiny]

There is a small aesthetic niggle with getting stabbed by the pole rather than the point.

I am mere concerned with other aesthetic niggles such as this remarkable greeting I received from Air, one of our resident throwers.

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This to me looks more odd then being stabbed by a blunt pole.

[MadJackMcMad]

This to me looks more odd then being stabbed by a blunt pole.

Not quite as odd as if it were a throwing hammer.

EDIT - In retrospect, how are we not to know the wooden pole pictured has not been sharpened?  The end of it is buried somewhere behind your nasal cavity.

[Fartface]

you guys prob havent dueled craftybadger with an long spear or me on my old char pikemanD.

[ArchonAlarion]

I'd rather see these weapons non-blockable. They are too long and clumsy to properly block with, and rapid changing of blocks, especially in crowded areas is ridiculous. Note that my main is a polearm user, and currently I have the longspear on my default loadout.

[Corrado_Decimo]

you guys prob havent dueled craftybadger with an long spear or me on my old char pikemanD.

uhm i dueled him yesterday for a good hour. he's really good with that but still (as it should be) too slow with the long spear to duel properly.
long spears are fine as they are because they shine among the brawl but aren't effective in 1vs1.